SamIam
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Post by SamIam on Apr 6, 2010 10:06:49 GMT -5
from what km said in the interview i don't think cold case is ending yet..... she was talking about how they wanted it to continue. if there was a possibility it could continue the team wouldn't have split would they?
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The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 6, 2010 10:58:30 GMT -5
So let me get this straight; if Ryan flirts with Lilly, and decides that he likes her, and wants her to join the FBI...then this makes him no better than a certain boyfriend who wanted her to commit cold blooded murder?
Some of you are acting like Ryan is going to be an abusive boyfriend to Lilly, and we haven't even seen the guy that much.
But, people grow, and people leave jobs. You cannot honestly look at me, and tell me that the only person suitable for Lilly is one that makes her stay at her job, and expect me to take you seriously.
Again, can we please just give this guy a chance before we villify him?
(Oh and in reference to the last page. Maybe I don't know much about the FBI, but some of you seem to act as though Lilly joining the FBI would be the same as her joining a slave trade, or the KKK, or some other awful organization. Color me confused.)
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Post by niiny on Apr 6, 2010 11:08:24 GMT -5
I think Lilly may leave the Team for only one reason : She falls love of Ryan (really) and think about Eddie, he left because of his work. Imagine now that she thinks that if she works to the FBI with Ryan nothing can break their love or something like that ? Lilly wants a stable relationship. But I'm not against the idea of their love but each other work in their own ways : Lilly Philly PD and Ryan FBI  |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 6, 2010 11:12:22 GMT -5
^^Yes, this is what I'm talking about! The positive attitude that both Lilly and Ryan can work their own jobs, and still be together.
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Post by Electrophile on Apr 6, 2010 11:26:47 GMT -5
I think a lot of people here are overreacting or over-thinking things.
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SamIam
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Post by SamIam on Apr 6, 2010 11:28:52 GMT -5
I think a lot of people here are overreacting or over-thinking things. i agree |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 6, 2010 12:41:50 GMT -5
Maybe so, so maybe we should all just watch the show, see what happens, and then decide whether or not to cry foul.
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Post by SamIam on Apr 6, 2010 13:08:05 GMT -5
Maybe so, so maybe we should all just watch the show, see what happens, and then decide whether or not to cry foul. good idea  |
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Post by stillmanfan on Apr 6, 2010 13:15:54 GMT -5
But there is one glaring problem that no one has brought up.
I saw this on WAT.. Isn't it against regulations for two FBI agents to work together as bf/gf?
I thought Jack got in trouble for uh... having a relationship with Sam in the beginning of the show?
Hopefully those who saw the show can correct me.
If it's against regulations on the FBI, wouldn't it be the same for any metropolitan police force?
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Post by lillyrush1977 on Apr 6, 2010 13:29:05 GMT -5
Maybe so, so maybe we should all just watch the show, see what happens, and then decide whether or not to cry foul. good idea This is quite the heated debate. I agree as well, it will be great to see how all this works out, & plus KM did mention that the finale is chucked full of stuff, so you never know. |
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Post by ninja1088 on Apr 6, 2010 13:29:30 GMT -5
Who knows... he doesn't show up in the last episodes of this season... but Lily deserves to have a love life with someone who is stable.
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Post by madmax on Apr 6, 2010 15:13:23 GMT -5
Reverend...im sorry, but if you don't want us to debate, discuss, bicker or even fight about the spoilers and future characters and love and life choices of main characters and just wait and watch the show then lets close spoilers on this forum!!!
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Post by Electrophile on Apr 6, 2010 15:17:32 GMT -5
Reverend...im sorry, but if you don't want us to debate, discuss, bicker or even fight about the spoilers and future characters and love and life choices of main characters and just wait and watch the show then lets close spoilers on this forum!!! Debate, discussion and conversation are always allowed, no matter what part of the board you're on. Bickering and fighting are NOT. We don't care if you debate or discuss the merits of Lilly ending up with so-and-so or if she moves on to the FBI.....that's all good. But if there's going to be fighting, we're going to nip it in the bud. There's a difference. |
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Post by tillace on Apr 6, 2010 20:03:02 GMT -5
But there is one glaring problem that no one has brought up. I saw this on WAT.. Isn't it against regulations for two FBI agents to work together as bf/gf? I thought Jack got in trouble for uh... having a relationship with Sam in the beginning of the show? Hopefully those who saw the show can correct me. If it's against regulations on the FBI, wouldn't it be the same for any metropolitan police force? I can't remember that far back on WAT so I can't comment on that, but as a Mulder/Scully shipper from way back I CAN remember some 'very important' research going into this question...the results were that two FBI agents who were equals could have a relationship, but if one were a superior it was forbidden. So I guess Jack would have got into trouble because he was Sam's boss, but Elena & Danny were fine. And Ryan and Lilly would be fine too I assume. As far as Cavanaugh goes, I haven't seen any of his episodes yet so I won't join in that particular debate, but I guess I'd rather see Lilly stay with the team. They're her family. And yes, I'd rather she be with Scotty than anyone else.  |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 6, 2010 21:00:23 GMT -5
Yes, exactly. Debate is fine, but fighting is not. Plus, debates must have facts to back it up. Thus far what I've heard from the anti-Ryan people is; "Ryan is horrible for Lilly, because he's going to get her to join the FBI".
So, when I say, "Wait until we see more of Ryan before we start assuming things" I really do mean that. There's nothing wrong with theorizing, as long as you have some evidence.
Example of a good theory.
(Before Moe was killed.) Lilly will kill Moe after she's harassed by him.
Although this never happened, there was still evidence that it could have happened. Both characters hated each other, Lilly was harassing Moe, but Moe had warned Lilly not to miss with him.
Example of a bad theory.
Ryan is actually an alien god, and his ultimate goal is to convince Lilly to join him. He will then take her to his home planet, and make her into the queen of that planet.
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Post by Electrophile on Apr 6, 2010 21:28:20 GMT -5
Also, I think with spoilers you inevitably run into the problem of talking in circles. Meaning, there's only so much that can be discussed prior to the episode airing. We know little bits of info and from the promo you can glean a few things here and there, but on the whole....we're all flying blind.
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Post by lillyscotty on Apr 7, 2010 0:27:11 GMT -5
Is this what you call fighting? Haha, not even close. This is called disageering. We're all entitled to an opinion, even if were judging only on a small bit of information. I dont think anyone is over reacting, its a debate, thats what debates are like...
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Post by Electrophile on Apr 7, 2010 11:40:55 GMT -5
Is this what you call fighting? Haha, not even close. This is called disageering. We're all entitled to an opinion, even if were judging only on a small bit of information. I dont think anyone is over reacting, its a debate, thats what debates are like... Neither myself nor The Reverend Bizarre said anyone was fighting. We were both responding to madmax's assertion that we should allow bickering and fighting, amongst other things, or else the Spoilers section should be closed. We both said that debate and discussion were allowed but fighting wasn't. If we don't allow members to bicker and argue in other sections of the board, we're sure as heck not going to let it happen here. |
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Post by lillyscotty on Apr 8, 2010 0:05:04 GMT -5
Well I think we all know she is right. Debating always involves some sort of bickering/fighting...So I guess debating shouldn't be allowed the, right?
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 8, 2010 2:36:17 GMT -5
That who's right?
btw, fighting is not what we're doing. Fighting would be the following:
Person A: This stinks!
Person B: I don't think so.
Person A: That's because you're an idiot.
Person C: That wasn't nice.
Person A: Oh shut up, and stay out of it!
Person C: Woah! Fine, no reason to be such a ******
Person B: I just think that (insert opinion here)
Person A: Yeah, and you're wrong, and are not a true fan of the show, so why don't you get lost?
...Notice the difference?
I've been in a fandom where the name of the game is theorizing. Things get extremely heated (more so than here), and there are some people who will stand their ground.
So when I come to this thread, and I read something along the following "Ryan is going to convince (force) Lilly to leave the team, and join the FBI; therefore he is a villain, and Lilly must not be with him." yeah, a part of me is going to be on the offence and defence.
Now I could be wrong, but as a viewer of the show one of the things I want is for the characters to be happy, and if Lilly has to leave the team then so be it. I don't think it's right of us to essentially want to tell her, "Oh, hey Lilly, guess what? You can never leave your job."
Here's another way to look at it. What if Lilly tells Ryan to get lost, (or it simply doesn't work out) and stays with her job, but she starts to get bored with it, and it shows? Which would you honestly rather have as a series finale, and let's imagine that there are only three options.
1. Lilly finally snaps, and has to be taken to a mental institution. The series ends with the entire team watching as she's subdued, and taken to a room. There is much anger and sadness as Scotty beats up a trashcan, Stillman shakes his head, and...yeah, you get the idea.
2. Lilly confesses to being bored with the job, and accepts the position at the FBI (if it's actually offered).
3. The series doesn't end, but in the finale, Nick is killed, and replaced the next season. Then Scotty decides to leave, and he's replaced. Stillman retires, and Jeffries takes over as Lt. Kat grows ill with some mysterious disease, and is forced to leave. At the end the only two originals left are Jeffries and Lilly.
And then Lilly discovers that she has cancer, and so the second to final season is dedicated to Lilly trying to overcome this while still solving cases. The season ends with her dying while sad music plays in the background.
The final season has none of the original cast, and the show might as well be called Cold Case v 2.0
Just saying, if those were the three options (and they probably won't be the only ones) I would take #2 in a heart beat.
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