Episode 3.15: Sanctuary

[Naj]

Valens' past haunts him when a 1998 case involving a drug mule is reopened and he is the focal point.

Airs March 12

Lilly Rush: Kathryn Morris
John Stillman: John Finn
Nick Vera: Jeremy Ratchford
Will Jeffries: Thom Barry
Scotty Valens: Danny Pino
Kat Miller: Tracie Thoms
Manny Fernandez (1998/2006): Marco Rodriguez
Ana (1998): Lela Loren
Ramiro (1998-2006): Gonzalo Menendez
Hector (1998/2006): Benjamin Benitez
Ceci (1998/2006): Marisol Ramirez
Delia (1998): Ana Mercedes
Father Peralta (1998/2006): Alex Fernandez
Customs Official: Michael J. Walker

[eboyle]

hey i was just wondering if anyone knows the name of the song that was played at the end of the episode?

[samanda]

That info is posted in the Episode Soundtracks forum.

[smitty54]

Did everyone look at the statue at the ending?

[Falling]

*SPOILERS?*




I did. That was very sad. I think it was better Scotty didn't know Ana died for pretty much no reason. It would have hurt even more.

[boxman]

smitty54 said:

Did everyone look at the statue at the ending?

Yes, interesting symbolism, don't you agree? This show flirts with religion like this every now-and-then, I've noticed. But then, I guess it's only expected, given the subject matter.

[longislanditalian2]

I loved that scene when the guy ( I forgot his name) Lilly and scotty first interview at west. Where he says to lilly" he never lied to you" the look on her face was priceless.The ending was so sad as scotty was lighting the candle , Ana was standing next to him , so sad. The scene on the balcony where Scotty says he screwed up was wrong about being with christina and how he's got to change , I wish lilly was there instead of Vera, it would have made better sense. Lilly realized she had to change after shooting george so made she could have been so assistance to scotty in that way ..But all and all vera did a good job listening to scotty. Scotty looked cute in that goatee in the flashbacks , but mainly being with elisa ( we knew that they were engaged several years back before she got sick , b/c he mention her wanting to get married) he didn't go the next level. I never thought Scotty could be that tought as I saw in the beginning when he grabbed the guy by his shirt, even lilly noticed that one also smacking the guy in the back of the head was new and unexpected. Something new , Lilly and kat interrigating, that was one tought interview Lilly was a little harsh kat harsh and even raising her voice I guess she has gotten confortable with the gang also being from Narcatics helps too. I loved Lilly's Jacket in the first scene .....or two did anyone happen to catch that in the teaser Scotty drove what it looked like to be a BMW ?

If someone could make the screencaps from this episode available to download that would be great

[eurache]

I thought last night's chat was great Here's our discussion last night from our Chat room.

Chat rundown - Sanctuary

[TVFan]

I had my doubts about this episode because the promos led us to believe that Scotty and Ana had a relationship, but thankfully, that was not the case. There's a lot to say about this episode because it was very rich.

This was my first extended exposure to the world of drug mules. I know irishkale pointed out in the spoiler thread for this episode that it sounded like the movie Maria Full of Grace, but I haven't seen that one yet (although, it's in my Netflix queue and I'm very interested in seeing it now). You hear about this stuff on the news, but seeing it on a television show through the eyes of the character is something completely different. Cold Case has a long history of doing episodes that address social issues and bring interesting, important questions to the surface. This episode certainly fits into this category. The entire drug trade is just a terrible, terrible problem and it hurts so many people. Ana's death was for absolutely nothing (as we all saw in the closing montage with the drugs still stashed in the Virgin Mary statue at the church). It was all so tragic, especially when they showed Ana seeing herself in that office building. I know it was contrived, but I thought it was effective.

Scotty's involvement was very interesting. There really was nothing between them other than friendship, but he got too emotionally close to Ana, which compromised himself, the investigation and ultimately her. Although, I do not blame her death on him or even his sergeant. I do think they both could have taken different steps (especially the sergeant, but I suppose he didn't want to compromise such a huge investigation/arrest to save one life - sad but true). The thing that shocked me in this episode was Scotty's decision to withhold pertinent information about the night Ana died. That revelation really threw me! Lilly had such a disappointed look on her face. I really think she was holding onto the idea that he wasn't lying to her this time. I thought she was going to get on her high-horse with him, but she never did. She didn't even raise her voice. I guess she figured that he was suffering enough with the thought that he may have been responsible for her death.

LII brought up that she wished it had been Lilly on the balcony with Scotty, and I had thought the same thing at first. Then I started thinking about the nature of their relationship and the fact that I don't think that Scotty would dare mention the name Christina in Lilly's company again. I think he's hoping it never comes up so that they may both continue to just move on. When Lilly went through her little breakdown in Saving Patrick Bubley, she too went to the balcony to think. In that case, it wasn't Scotty there comforting her, but rather Stillman. I think Vera was a good fit for this situation because he knows what it's like to mess up ("Our Boy is Back"). Lilly and Scotty just don't have the type of relationship where they lean on each other, especially since the Chris mess, but even before. If you think back to season one, they rarely had heart-to-heart conversations. Even when Scotty asked her about Kite in "The Letter," he only got a few shrugs out of her. He did spill about Elisa in "Resolutions," but that's about it. And then when Elisa died in "Blank Generation," Lilly was the only one who Scotty didn't reach out to. I've always felt that they have a weird relationship and I've never been able to figure out why. This latest incident just fits in perfectly with that weirdness. I guess they're partners, but not friends.

Overall, I thought this was a very strong episode. The case was very well done, but I feel that the cases have been excellent overall this season with a few exceptions. It's the personal stuff that I feel has been off the mark, but even that seemed to shine this week.

[sonny]

I'll just ditto everything TVFan said. I wasn't looking forward to this episode but I was plesently suprised. It was very good. Scotty didn't annoy me [which is often unusual!].

I totally agree about the weirdness of Scotty and Lilly's relationship. It's almost like eachother is the last person they would go to talk about anything. I'm totally confused when it comes to them :smile10: :smile10: I don't think Scotty has done himself many favours when it comes to healing things between him and Lilly. She looked so disappointed with him on several occasions and quite frankly I don't blame her. I know he couldn't help getting involved but it must look to Lilly that he really can't control himself when it comes to a pretty and needy girl. Lilly on the other hand is the total opposite and prides herself on control.

I did think Vera was an excellent choice for the person to be talking to Scotty and love the gesture Jefferies gave him to go and see him.

I'll also emphasise TVFan's point about the cases being strong this season. On watching the re-runs on UK TV I have to agree, they have mostly been very good.

I've made a decision about Kat too. I actually like her. She was in this episode perhaps more than she has been in any other. I thought her and Lilly worked well together and that she is fitting in really well with the team. Wow, I never thought I'd hear myself think that!

Music was excellent I thought. In 1998 I was 20 so most of those songs were stuff that I am familiar with and used to listen to. In fact 4 of the songs I already own, so don't need to get hold of!

Anyway that's it cos otherwise I'll start repeating what TVFan has said! ;D

[TVFan]

know he couldn't help getting involved but it must look to Lilly that he really can't control himself when it comes to a pretty and needy girl. Lilly on the other hand is the total opposite and prides herself on control.

Wow, this is an excellent point sonny. I think you hit the nail on the head with this statement. I totally didn't see this parallel, but it makes perfect sense. Great catch!

I'll also second that I'm liking Kat just fine. She's very non-intrusive and has barely measured a ripple in the greater scheme of big changes. If they're set on adding someone new, then Kat is fine with me, as is the way they added her. She and Lilly really did have some nice scenes together. I LOVED their ending interrogation scene with Ceci.

[boxman]

sonny said:

but it must look to Lilly that he really can't control himself when it comes to a pretty and needy girl. Lilly on the other hand is the total opposite and prides herself on control.

...and you know what they say, sonny..."Opposites attract!"

I've made a decision about Kat too. I actually like her. She was in this episode perhaps more than she has been in any other. I thought her and Lilly worked well together and that she is fitting in really well with the team. Wow, I never thought I'd hear myself think that!

Yes, I like the girl/girl friendship--Lilly needs that! Kat also seems to work well with Jeffries too. In "Dog Days" she opens up to him about her past that led her to start smoking so heavily. In "Debut" he was a nice, quiet anchor to her tough interrogation. Others have criticised her as 'stiff', but I'm hoping it works out for her--homocide is a tough job!

[sonny]

Opposites may well attract but I'm not convinced in this case. I've thought something between them may have been possible in the past but this episode screamed loud and clear to me that there won't ever be anything between Lilly and Scotty. Not quite sure whether that's a good or bad thing? Not that I mean I wanted them to hook up, but that possibility always being there, I liked.

[ecooper516]

I also liked the interrogation scene. It seemed to me that it was like the past years in which Lilly does some tough questioning. Regarding the episode I thought it was ok. I have seen more interesting and better storylines.

[leslie33]

The song at the end of the Episode is called "Return to the Innocence" by Enigma.

[toodledo22]

Loved it! This ep was great! Scotty was so adorable with the facial hair lol. I really liked his friendship with Ana, and I think that most everyone is right, it was a good thing that he didn't know that she died for no reason. It made me sad to know she died for no good reason. I really did not like Ceci. She did not deserve to have a free home if she was still doing stuff like that. Was her boyfriend one of the drug dealers related to Ana's connection? That part confused me.

That's really disturbing that there is such a thing as swallowing drugs to smuggle them through borders. That really upset me. That's disgusting. It's bad enough that people smuggle them into other countries but that's just terrible.

I liked this episode. Scotty would be a good protective friend, or older brother. That's what makes him such a good cop, says Vera. (And I totally agree)

[longislanditalian2]

Scotty is protective of Lilly , he's like a brother to her..

About the part about scotty saying he's got to change , i don't mean to be harsh about it but let's see how long that lasts, scotty isn't know to be always truthful. Lilly on the other hand, had the abilty to change which ended in a great result.

[KathrynFan]

screencaps are up now

oldasecreencaps.fotopic.net/c890118.html

[emptymoment]

tvfan said:

The thing that shocked me in this episode was Scotty's decision to withhold pertinent information about the night Ana died. That revelation really threw me! Lilly had such a disappointed look on her face. I really think she was holding onto the idea that he wasn't lying to her this time.

Yeah, me too..he's a cop, shouldn't he know that it's best to tell everything? I loved the look on Lilly's face though, she was all "oh no..don't lie to me again.."

[longislanditalian2]

Is there a way I could download some of the screencaps