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Post by irishkale on Mar 13, 2009 2:04:55 GMT -5
AS JEFFRIES FIGHTS FOR HIS LIFE AFTER BEING SHOT IN A LOCAL CONVENIENCE STORE THE REST OF THE TEAM SEARCHES FOR THE SHOOTER, ON "COLD CASE," SUNDAY, MARCH 15
Clarence Williams III ("The Mod Squad," "The General's Daughter") Guest Stars as the Store's Owner and First Shooting Victim
Sharif Atkins ("ER") Guest Stars as a Tough Guy with a Record - And Ties to the Store Owner and Jeffries
"Officer Down" - The team members try to curtail their emotions as they search for the person who shot both Jeffries and the elderly long-time owner of the corner convenience store Jeffries had entered on his way home from work with Vera, on COLD CASE, Sunday, March 15 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
SERIES REGULARS:
Lilly Rush: Kathryn Morris Scotty Valens: Danny Pino Lt. John Stillman: John Finn Nick Vera: Jeremy Ratchford Will Jeffries: Thom Barry Kat Miller: Tracie Thoms
RECURRING CAST :
Frankie Rafferty: Tania Raymonde A.D.A. Curtis Bell: Jonathan LaPaglia Paul Cooper: Raymond J. Barry
GUEST CAST:
Henry "Pops" Walters: Clarence Williams III Henry "Pops" Walters: Pancho Demmings James Valentine: Sharif Atkins Detective. Pete McGinley: Brian Letscher Department Commissioner Patrick Doherty: Keith Szarabajka Officer Lennox: Alex Valente Dr. Pascal: Erika Ringor Carmen: Simone Moore Will Jeffries (1966): Lawrence Adimora Landry: Kevin Jackson Francisco Ariza: Manny Montana Gabriel Ariza: Mateo Arias James Valentine: Sharif Atkins Beatrice Calderon: Norma Maldonado Hot Young Woman: Heather Perrilliat
WRITTEN BY: Christopher Silber, one of the series' co-producers
DIRECTED BY: Alex Zakrzewski
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 15, 2009 21:05:12 GMT -5
Wow what an emotional different episode.
First of all, I like how they showed all the detectives hurrying to the scene. Scotty in his sportscar, Lilly darting out, Kat rushing Veronica out of bed.
At the crime scene, the blood followed by three gunshots symbolized Lilly's own shooting. Notice how that was never brought up.
I did like Cooper showing up at homicide, you can tell that its hard for Lilly to actually have a parent that really cares and is looking out for her. He really seemed to be concerned but loving..
Scotty/Frankie- Can we finally get rid of her already, she's just useless? Lilly crying at the end, I think she feels guilty for shooting Gabriel, plus also having a good cry is actually good for her. She needs to let the emotions out.
May I add that Jefferies saw the victim " pops" at the end.
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Post by Naj on Mar 15, 2009 21:07:07 GMT -5
I absolutely loved this episode! It's the best of the season for me. I just guess I love more action from the team and something personal as a motivation for them.
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Post by boxman on Mar 15, 2009 21:07:52 GMT -5
Awesome episode! And Eduardo gets an ending he can finally like!
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 15, 2009 21:10:41 GMT -5
May I add that I loved Lilly's new coat, and she's wearing the same turtleneck as in S1. I found it funny with Vera in the chapel with that guy, especially him hugging him. Neverthless Lilly's own shooting she doesn't even think about anymore, but now knows that there is someone whom is looking out for her; her dad.
I did find it interesting how the flashbacks were from several episodes, now everything fits together like a puzzle.
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Post by Electrophile on Mar 15, 2009 21:22:52 GMT -5
I'm speechless. What a fantastic episode. Just amazing. So many amazing moments in this one. Stillman interrogating McGinley, Vera in church, Scotty and Lilly with Gabriel....
Although for me, the two moments that sealed it were Lilly's dad giving her the St. Jude medal and the Lilly crying at the end. I don't think she ever really came to terms with her having been shot and it was really emotional for her. I thought she played it very well.
This is the first episode this season that I thought was one of the best absolute best. Right up there with Wednesday's Women in terms of the emotional impact. I wish I had more to say, but this is one of the rare times where the show completely dumbfounded me.
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Post by Electrophile on Mar 15, 2009 21:55:02 GMT -5
Wow what an emotional different episode. First of all, I like how they showed all the detectives hurrying to the scene. Scotty in his sportscar, Lilly darting out, Kat rushing Veronica out of bed. At the crime scene, the blood followed by three gunshots symbolized Lilly's own shooting. Notice how that was never brought up. I did like Cooper showing up at homicide, you can tell that its hard for Lilly to actually have a parent that really cares and is looking out for her. He really seemed to be concerned but loving.. Scotty/Frankie- Can we finally get rid of her already, she's just useless? Lilly crying at the end, I think she feels guilty for shooting Gabriel, plus also having a good cry is actually good for her. She needs to let the emotions out. May I add that Jefferies saw the victim " pops" at the end. I thought Frankie at least had some reason to be in the episode, what with the video tape and all. So her brief cameo if you want to call it that, was at least warranted. Otherwise I do agree, her usefulness on the show has since run its course. Time to go. One thing I thought about at the end that I didn't mention in my initial review is that I don't ever remember Lilly crying. I'm pretty sure that's the first time I've seen her cry, and for a character that acts tough and puts on a brave face a lot, it was pretty jarring to see that stripped away. And as a Catholic, St. Jude is also the patron saint of desperate situations. So for me, I recognized that right away. Also, being a Chicagoan, St. Jude is the patron saint of their police department. So I thought that was a nice nod, even if the show is set in Philly. Both cities are blue-collar, so I thought the allusion was nice. BTW, was I the only one who wanted to see Stillman beat the police commisioner's ass? I was really hoping for a throwdown there, because the idea that any of Stillman's people would be on the take or otherwise dirty, actually hocked me off. I wanted to see Stillman take a swing at him.
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Post by irishkale on Mar 15, 2009 23:27:28 GMT -5
I just finished watching it and I have to rate it "One of the SERIES' Best." It was up there with "Mindhunter" and "Bubley" in terms of its epic grandeur. Every one of the main characters were at their best. Another Season 6 "home run." Kudos to the cast & crew, great job!!! I'll try to give it a proper review later.. but like Electrophile, I can't even review it right now, it was so perfect!!!
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 16, 2009 1:15:15 GMT -5
One of the show's best episodes ever! I did not like at first but later I was about to cry,not as I cried with my all time favorite Shuffle Ball Change but I was gonna cry.
Some details and questions -Episode showed how hard is cop's life -Cooper moment -The creepy guy from Street Money... I hated him so much -This episode showed us how the team also works in Warm cases -Vera was flawless - loved Lilly -Real life of high crime areas was shown -A DETECTIVE SAW THE VICTIM. OH YEAHSecond time in the season since I re watched the odd Jackals and Lilly did not see the one who's name we shall not say -Flashback with time... Cool -It's cool they want to show us new things like in this episode or Witness Protection but I mean, sometimes It's cool too to see the classic things -Stillman Time! OH YEAH -Kat with Veronica in the end... Yeah! -First actual case only in cc history -1966 flashback! I love 60's -The moment where Lilly said to Scotty Cooper is his dad and he knew it!!! OH OH -Flashback and directing was excellent -Some people said Chris Silber was not a good writer. I hated some episodes he wrote but This one was a home run -The emotion of the final shooting between Gabriel vs. Scotty/Lilly -The friendship between Vera and Will.... EXCELLENT! -Lilly in the end crying Cute!!! *I loved this episode
*****QUESTIONS***** 1-Did Pops want the gun or not? 2-In the scene where ADA Bell was speaking with Lilly: she said something at the end that he did... about his dad or something... 3-Is Lilly atheist? She did not want the St. Jude thing 4-The video was not clear. What did Scotty see on the video that incriminated Gabriel? something on the shirt 5-Why Lilly cried in the end? Because she shoot Gabriel? SHE HAD TO!!! Thanks[/b][/i] Scotty/Frankie- Can we finally get rid of her already, she's just useless? May I add that Jefferies saw the victim " pops" at the end. I hate her so muchAwesome episode! And Eduardo gets an ending he can finally like! Oh Yeah but my favorite final montage this season is Shore Leave still ;DI did find it interesting how the flashbacks were from several episodes, now everything fits together like a puzzle. I just remembered one from Jackals... Not too many other from other episodes exactly. Maybe general flashbacks that we don't know when exactly took place
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Post by Electrophile on Mar 16, 2009 1:42:43 GMT -5
*****QUESTIONS***** 1-Did Pops want the gun or not? 2-In the scene where ADA Bell was speaking with Lilly: she said something at the end that he did... about his dad or something... 3-Is Lilly atheist? She did not want the St. Jude thing 4-The video was not clear. What did Scotty see on the video that incriminated Gabriel? something on the shirt 5-Why Lilly cried in the end? Because she shoot Gabriel? SHE HAD TO!!! Thanks1. No, he didn't want the gun. 2. ADA Bell's father was a cop and was killed in the line of duty, hence why he said he wasn't leaving until they found the guy that shot Jeffries. 3. No, she's not an atheist. She doesn't have much of a relationship with her father, so she was probably wary of accepting anything from him. 4. Scotty realized that the bloody clothes they found didn't belong to Gabriel's brother. He wasn't wearing them. The jacket his brother was wearing in the tape, Scotty saw Gabriel wearing when they went to his aunt's house to try and find him. That's when Scotty knew it was Gabriel that shot Pops and Jeffries. 5. She cried because she hadn't come to terms with her own shooting and this brought back all those memories. She's shot people in the line of duty before and didn't cry, so I don't think that's why. Also if you remember, her dad said St. Jude was the patron saint of lost causes and she was crying while she was holding the medal. Maybe she views herself as a lost cause and was crying over that. Or crying because her father thought it was her that had been shot, knowing he didn't know she had been shot already. There are a lot of explanations for why it happened, I think it added to the emotional resonance of the episode.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 16, 2009 1:46:34 GMT -5
*****QUESTIONS***** 1-Did Pops want the gun or not? 2-In the scene where ADA Bell was speaking with Lilly: she said something at the end that he did... about his dad or something... 3-Is Lilly atheist? She did not want the St. Jude thing 4-The video was not clear. What did Scotty see on the video that incriminated Gabriel? something on the shirt 5-Why Lilly cried in the end? Because she shoot Gabriel? SHE HAD TO!!! Thanks1. No, he didn't want the gun. 2. ADA Bell's father was a cop and was killed in the line of duty, hence why he said he wasn't leaving until they found the guy that shot Jeffries. 3. No, she's not an atheist. She doesn't have much of a relationship with her father, so she was probably wary of accepting anything from him. 4. Scotty realized that the bloody clothes they found didn't belong to Gabriel's brother. He wasn't wearing them. The jacket his brother was wearing in the tape, Scotty saw Gabriel wearing when they went to his aunt's house to try and find him. That's when Scotty knew it was Gabriel that shot Pops and Jeffries. 5. She cried because she hadn't come to terms with her own shooting and this brought back all those memories. She's shot people in the line of duty before and didn't cry, so I don't think that's why. Also if you remember, her dad said St. Jude was the patron saint of lost causes and she was crying while she was holding the medal. Maybe she views herself as a lost cause and was crying over that. Or crying because her father thought it was her that had been shot, knowing he didn't know she had been shot already. There are a lot of explanations for why it happened, I think it added to the emotional resonance of the episode. Elecrophile. Thank you so much. You're such a nice girl. I have seen usually I don't like the episodes all people like but this one was Awesome. I will never forget those words Officer Down Officer Down and in the end when Gabriel confessed and Vera yelled Will Will Excellent
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Mar 16, 2009 3:09:15 GMT -5
Great episode! One of the best this season, and I'll give a full(er) review tomorrow.
Perplexed about Lilly breaking down in the end. From what I've seen she's not the type to cry for no apparent reason. She doesn't even seem to cry even if she has a reason. Could this actually be a sign, that her walls are breaking down? It's interesting how she pulls out the medal of St. Jude, and actually seems to look at it, while crying.
Amazingly (and I might be corrected on this), many Christians actually mistake Jude for Judas Iscariot, and as a result St. Jude became the forgotten saint. For this reason, only people in the most desperate of situations would call upon him.
And some might remember that this isn't the first time that a medal with a saint on it has been used on the show.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 16, 2009 3:33:08 GMT -5
Another issue is when Miller said.... We dont give a rat's ass
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Post by ali on Mar 16, 2009 5:45:38 GMT -5
I've just watched it. What a great episode! So exiting, so intense...awesome!
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Post by Gina on Mar 16, 2009 7:16:34 GMT -5
I loved it, and I'm gonna write a much better review later, after dance.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 16, 2009 7:26:12 GMT -5
I don't think Lilly was crying b/c of not coming to terms with her own shooting, she clearly has come to terms with that. It's very clear it's not about her, but perhaps shooting a young kid and her mother. Plus all the emotions stemming from when Jefferies was shot, Lilly needed to release it.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 16, 2009 7:58:12 GMT -5
I don't think Lilly was crying b/c of not coming to terms with her own shooting, she clearly has come to terms with that. It's very clear it's not about her, but perhaps shooting a young kid and her mother. Plus all the emotions stemming from when Jefferies was shot, Lilly needed to release it. shooting Gabriel's mother?
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 16, 2009 8:19:48 GMT -5
No shooting Gabriel and also Lilly was also crying since she never really mourned her mother's death. She's very emotional plus that Medellion her father had given to her, probably brings back a lot of pain; that Lilly wasn't about to release until now
Anyone notice that Vera also had blood on his tie, like Scotty had in Stalker?
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Post by toddsmitts on Mar 16, 2009 8:37:33 GMT -5
-Am I wrong or has Lilly NEVER, in six seasons on the show, broken down like she did at the end? Not even when her mom died! -I may be alone on this, but I think the scene with Stillman and Doherty was one of the most intruiging parts. Yes, the "high-ranking scumbag puts the squeeze on the squad boss" story has been done on pretty much every cop show, but I was really happy to see them follow up Stillman's confrontation with Doherty and Boone from "Street Money". Since the two of them didn't really get any comeuppance in that episode, I was excited to have them turn up again (or at least just Doherty). I don't have proof, but I'm pretty certain this will come up again in the finale. Here's hoping Boone shows up again this time too! -I know that Pops' granddaughter Carmen showed up in the previous episode. Did that phone conversation where Vera mentioned Valentine actually happen in an episode? -The guy that Vera butted heads with in the chapel: He didn't say anything, so I had this strange thought that he might be deaf. I think that probably comes from an old "NYPD Blue" episode where Sipowicz's young son was in the hospital with lukemia and Sipowicz found himself praying in the chapel where there was a deaf guy doing the same.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 16, 2009 8:45:42 GMT -5
-I know that Pops' granddaughter Carmen showed up in the previous episode. Did that phone conversation where Vera mentioned Valentine actually happen in an episode? No, it didn't
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