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Post by MrsB on May 23, 2004 21:53:15 GMT -5
Hi Mrs B.... I believe I got them all. I haven't posted them over in Soundtrack because some posters haven't seen the show yet. So I promised them I wouldn't post right away. I don't believe there was any Cyndi Lauper and the other song was by Stevie Nicks. Really? No Cyndi Lauper - I keep hearing her song, "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun," over and over in my head. I could have sworn I heard it in the show - like maybe when they were trying on the lip gloss in the mall or something. Oh well, I may be wrong but I keep hearing it in my head!  |
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Post by Naj on May 23, 2004 21:53:22 GMT -5
Hi onebyeone... nah, I'm not addicted  but I want to see Kathryn get her teeth into some meaty acting storyline even if it's only once or twice during the season. There's so much more she can do than what they give her. ;D ~Naj |
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Post by Naj on May 23, 2004 21:57:02 GMT -5
Hi MrsB! Well I only came up with 8 songs tonight and usually there are 10-11. Maybe I missed it.  I have 8 written down. One was "Mad About You" by Belinda Carisle.... Does anyone remember "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun?" Check out the Soundtrack Forum later (panhandler may post them there) and if no one posts-I'll post tomorrow and re check the episode. ~Naj |
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Post by MrsB on May 23, 2004 21:57:46 GMT -5
In the final scene with Lilly in bed, she very subtly seems to rub her belly....I think she's thinking not about Kite, but someone in her past...maybe she was in love.....lost a child? Is this too out there? I kinda thought something like that too. For a split second, after she rubbed her tummy, I thought maybe she was pregnant and now it's complicated 'cuz Kite dumped her. But then I thought, no way, they're both responsible people, they'd use protection, right? But I guess nothing is really 100% protection, huh? OOOHH the possibilities... But I wouldn't want to see a baby in the mix though. I would probably agree more about the past thing because of the way she understood the girls getting abortions in "The Volunteers" episode. |
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Post by Naj on May 23, 2004 21:59:25 GMT -5
So you all think she and Kite had sex already? Interesting.....
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Post by MrsB on May 23, 2004 22:05:18 GMT -5
Quote by Naj... "One was "Mad About You" by Belinda Carisle...." Well, thanks Naj, now all I can hear in my head is "Mad About You" LOL !!!  I'm stuck in the 80s again!!!  |
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Post by Naj on May 23, 2004 22:13:05 GMT -5
Quote by Naj... "One was "Mad About You" by Belinda Carisle...." Well, thanks Naj, now all I can hear in my head is "Mad About You" LOL !!! I'm stuck in the 80s again!!! If you go over to the Soundtrack forum and look at the possible songs we "thought" were going to be in the episode---your head will be ringing with about 30 plus songs. I spelled Belinda's last name wrong. I think it's Carlisle. ~Naj  |
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Post by krispy on May 23, 2004 22:29:48 GMT -5
NO NO NO- I don't think Lilly and Kite already had sex. I think maybe there's a possiblity there was another love in her life and perhaps there was a pregnancy. When you think about Lilly's character (shy regarding men, guarded, cautious about love), I couldn't see Lilly getting intimate quite that quick. Chin up Lilly-girl!  |
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Post by MrsB on May 23, 2004 22:33:55 GMT -5
I got the feeling from the bedroom scene that they were pretty "comfortable" with each other. Their kissing seemed to be natural and not nervous like when you are about to make love for the first time, in my opinion. It seemed like them being in her bedroom at 3 a.m. (wasn't it?) was to imply that they are "with" each other. |
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Post by litlcatfeet on May 23, 2004 23:28:15 GMT -5
Hey I'm new to this board - actually I've visited this site a number of times previous - but after this season finale I felt compelled to participate. ;D I agree with what everyone is saying - the Kite thing was completely out of the blue from what we've seen of their relationship on the show. A rather transparently calculated move on the part of the writers. Hm. But since that's been discussed a lot already, I was going to pick up on some of the other stuff people have mentioned - like Scotty and Elisa. Scotty said earlier in the show that she was at her sister's, but after he leaves her at the end of the show, he's shown walking in what looks like an institutional setting, and he goes through a door, which has some kind of lettering on it (I couldn't read it, and I didn't tape the show). Maybe he lied earlier when he said she was at her sister's because he feels bad that she's in an institution. Didn't he promise Elisa that he'd never let her go to an institution? I seem to remember that was in some previous episode. Any thoughts? The other thing was Anna Meyers - what was she brought in for? It seems like a set-up almost for a new character entry, but I hope not. First, because I like the dynamic of Lilly being the only female detective. Second, because she didn't really add anything to this episode. She was kind of boring and I almost forgot about her until Naj mentioned her on the board. Her introduction seemed a bit pointless. Anyway, I know this was a kind of long entry, but I'm glad to be on the board now, and await your replies. Oh and Mrs B, you might have heard "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" on the Royal Caribbean Cruise commercial. I got that song in my head when that commerical came on during one of the breaks in the episode. ;D |
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Post by MAO on May 24, 2004 0:01:24 GMT -5
1. I didn't like the new female character either. Her history with Scotty was intriguing -- could give us some clues as to his character -- but she was too brash and not very interesting. If I remember correctly, her reaction to the exciting details of homicide work were much the same as Scotty's original reaction. That was amusing. But, I kind of hope she's at most a recurring (and not too often) character next season.
2. Kite's reaction didn't surprise me that much. I have watched the pertinent scene a couple of times and can't tell when they came into her bedroom. It didn't look that late, but there's really no way to tell if it was midnight or 2:30 a.m. Him undressing in her bedroom seemed to me to indicate that he expected to be sleeping with her that night. When he came out to go home, sometime later (obviously, more than 5 minutes later,) it looked as though he'd taken off his tie and probably his shirt and then put them back on to go home. I think that the implication was that she'd been outside more than an hour, at least. Her comment about "5 minutes" the next day and his reaction "you have a weird definition of 5 minutes" (that may not be an accurate recollection of what he said, but it was similar to that) leads me to believe that she had spent a fair amount of time with the guy outside her apartment. I think Kite would have waited at least an hour before he gave up; possibly longer. And she didn't exactly give him much of a reason for staying with the guy that long -- yes, he was hurting but so what? It's not like they were friends or she would have invited him inside. It's not like he was confessing to murdering the girl or she would have been able to say that to Kite the next day. I think she finds it easier to get involved more with "the job" than anything else, which is precisely what Kite was complaining about. I'm disappointed that they seemed to have broken up, but I'm not surprised. I just hope that, if the reason is Hopkins having another acting job, that we don't get another love interest early next season for Lilly. Otherwise, I entertain a probably futile hope that they get back together next season.
3. I think Scotty left Elisa at her sister's apartment building. I don't think he'd lie to his boss -- he hasn't been ashamed of her being sick to this point, so I don't see him making up stories about it now if she'd ended back in the hospital. The wording on the door seemed to start with an 'O' and ended with 'ON.' The second letter seemed to be a 'B' or 'R' -- probably OREGON or something like that. I don't think it was a hospital, though it's possible that it was. I have no idea if they were breaking up or just talking. That scene was a little odd.
4. Mae Whitman is one of my favorite young actresses. I'm surprised at how old she is now; I basically remember a young girl. I guess that happens.
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5. I'm always surprised and slightly disappointed in how convenient any television show seems to make the characters tell only dribs & drabs, in order to make an hour episode. I would have thought that Carrie would have immediately brought up Wayne & his father as a potential threat to Eve. Maybe not when she was a young girl, but certainly the first time she talked to these cops, 18 years later. It's also strange the differences between shows -- most shows seem to use the threat of DNA very quickly. This one rarely seems to think of it. If DNA was used to get the other guy out after 18 years, you'd think that one of the questions these cops would have asked Wayne & Max and any other guys they talked to for a DNA sample.
Ah well, it was an interesting episode.
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Post by misguided freak on May 24, 2004 0:02:55 GMT -5
Hmmm ... I recall reading somewhere that the actor who plays Kite has a pilot lined up this fall, so maybe that's why they ended the Killy relationship? Another heartbreaking episode; this show seriously illustrates how vile human beings can be. First there was the stockbroker guy, then child abuser at the military camp, and now this horrible old man. It's gonna be 4 long months until the Season 2 premiere |
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Post by onebyone on May 24, 2004 0:03:53 GMT -5
Hi onebyeone... nah, I'm not addicted but I want to see Kathryn get her teeth into some meaty acting storyline even if it's only once or twice during the season. There's so much more she can do than what they give her. ;D Yeah, not addcited. I agree though. I love this show so much, but would love to see them give her more, because she is very talented and Lilly is a great character. This episode, as do others, hint at some big back story, but they never let her dive in. I like her story being more subtle than some because she isn't the wear the heart on the sleeve type, but still. I want more. I am still a little skeeved from this episode. That was one of the most upsetting villians they ever had. |
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Post by Falling on May 24, 2004 0:57:11 GMT -5
I'm posting this late because honestly, I'm still thinking about the episode, and how evil that man was. I keep going over the final scenes in my head, and I just get sick. I couldn't sleep.  |
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Post by CC Fan on May 24, 2004 2:21:36 GMT -5
I finally watched it.
OK, so about the whole Killy thing. I wasn't as mad as I thought I'd be, in fact, I kind of could see where Kite was coming from. She really is into her work, too much, and it doesn't give them a lot of time for eachother.
Next, that episode was amazing and so sad. The whole rape storyline made me shake.
The episodes haven't gotten so much better since the season premiere. This show has really come together.
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Post by Naj on May 24, 2004 8:42:43 GMT -5
Hey I'm new to this board - actually I've visited this site a number of times previous - but after this season finale I felt compelled to participate. ;D I agree with what everyone is saying - the Kite thing was completely out of the blue from what we've seen of their relationship on the show. A rather transparently calculated move on the part of the writers. Hm. But since that's been discussed a lot already, I was going to pick up on some of the other stuff people have mentioned - like Scotty and Elisa. Scotty said earlier in the show that she was at her sister's, but after he leaves her at the end of the show, he's shown walking in what looks like an institutional setting, and he goes through a door, which has some kind of lettering on it (I couldn't read it, and I didn't tape the show). Maybe he lied earlier when he said she was at her sister's because he feels bad that she's in an institution. Didn't he promise Elisa that he'd never let her go to an institution? I seem to remember that was in some previous episode. Any thoughts? Hello lilcatfeet and welcome! Glad you decided to post your thoughts. I'll' begin with Ann Meyers (sp) a detective for the 16th District who seems to go way back with Scotty to which he refers to her as a "pain in the butt". It does look like they introduced her to be working with them next season. So if so that might be a big challenge for her and Scotty to get along. It just seemed odd that they plopped her into the episode after the entire year. I guess I'd rather they do it now than to see her next season, personally. The impression I got about Scotty and Elisa was the same as yours. She was at her sisters but she must have gotten worse and had to be admitted again. That either lets the door open to continue next season or Scotty will simply say next season that she's gotten worse or not improved as a reason to keep her out of the storyline. I have to go back and watch it again but I don't know why I was thinking that it was light out when Lily and Kite went to her condo and light when she sat outside to talk to Mark. Then it got dark as they talked....  ? ~Naj |
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Post by MrsB on May 24, 2004 9:18:09 GMT -5
Quote from litlcatfeet...
"Oh and Mrs B, you might have heard "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" on the Royal Caribbean Cruise commercial. I got that song in my head when that commerical came on during one of the breaks in the episode."
Oh, thank you for telling me this!!!!! I knew I heard it from somewhere last night! I know I'm not going crazy now! ;D
Now, I have "Leather and Lace" by Stevie Nicks in my head after reading Naj's soundtrack message of the songs from last night. I love that song! Thanks! ;D
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Post by MrsB on May 24, 2004 9:24:14 GMT -5
Quote from Naj...
"I have to go back and watch it again but I don't know why I was thinking that it was light out when Lily and Kite went to her condo and light when she sat outside to talk to Mark. Then it got dark as they talked....?"
I'm not sure where in the episode I heard this but I'm pretty sure there was some mention of 3:00 a.m. and her apartment. If you see it again, Naj, maybe you can confirm or refute this. (Knowing me though, it was probably someone on that Carribean cruise commercial discussing it while they sang "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun!" LOL!) ;D
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Post by peggyk on May 24, 2004 9:54:25 GMT -5
I always record the show and watch it the next day so that I don't have to deal with commericals and I find it really interesting to come here and see what everone had to say.
For some reason I thought the boy that worked at the movies was going to be involved but it really surprised me how that all turned out. That was sad and strange how those girls would go so easily with the father.
Like everyone else I was disappointed that Kite would break it off so easy, just made me think they were trying to give him a reason to leave and opening to come back.
I didn't get anything out of the Scotty storyline, to me it just looked like he was visiting her at her sister's and then he was going home for the night leaving her there because it was where she needed to be right now.
All in all a good episode!
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Post by krispy on May 24, 2004 10:22:49 GMT -5
It didn't seem to me that Scotty was letting go of Elissa. It was just a visit and she clearly didn't want him to go. I don't think it was an institution-he did promise her he wouldn't let that happen after all. I see Scotty as a man of his word.
As for that other detective (the pain in the butt lady)....I hope she doesn't stick around. Like many of us, I like Lilly being the only chick in the roosterhouse and I can't see any of us attaching to her given her cocky, brash attitude. She seems like one of the guys...but the kind of guys that no one likes.
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but I want to see Kathryn get her teeth into some meaty acting storyline even if it's only once or twice during the season. There's so much more she can do than what they give her. ;D
I have 8 written down. One was "Mad About You" by Belinda Carisle.... Does anyone remember "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun?"
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