Still Interested?

[sukkerspinn]

insider said:

The one thing I can tell you is that people who work on the show - all the way up to the top - read this fansite.

They do!?!?!?!?!?!?! :smile38:

[soccerulz]

Hi InsideR! I just sat down and read through this whole thread and....whoa!

I was getting nervous as to how you were going to answer Naj's lengthy post. I was worried I was going to hear something I wasn't going to be happy about. But you actually put a lot of my worries to rest. Thanks

And uh, people from the show read this board? Freaky. Haha, I think it was with DF and Sonny I was talking about that once...kind of like 'big brother is watching'.....

Thanks again InsideR. I love spoiling myself (although I kick myself afterwards!).

[foxfire0114]

v said:

insider said:

As for that "leverage" thing - I'm really sorry I opened my mouth, er, computer keyboard. For one thing, it is TOTAL speculation (as in it might be completely wrong). So, to be clear, I have heard nothing that would make me think that KM was not going to be with Cold Case until the very last episode - ten or twelve years from now.

-R

Ten or twelve years from now, InsideR?? Is that speculation or a fact??
And welcome back!! I, too, wondered where you had gone off to.

Naj, just wanted to repeat what others said -- loved your long post and agree with what you've said.

Yea, I'm wondering about that too. Is that just speculation?? I'm all for ten or so years!!



Ok. I'm dense. :smile64: I've been trying to figure out this Motorcycle Man?! Who is this referring to?

[TVFan]

Foxfire - It's the man that Lilly referenced in "The House" when she was talking to Hank's wife in the kitchen. Then at the end of the episode, we saw "Lilly" and "motorcycle man" ride off together in the street. I'm not sure if this guy is Patrick or not, but I guess we'll find out.

[sonny]

Thanks for clearing that up about Kathryn InsideR. I couldn't imagine her as anything but nice, respectful and excellent at her job.
It is bizarre, we did have a discussion about peeps from CC reading the board a while back, I remember it Soccer!!
Anyway that is such an ace thought and if anyone from CC reads this can I just say agin Kathryn Morris is the best!! Give Lilly more screentime and I hope you guys realize how important she is to the show for us fans!!
So, a motorcycle man. Now that I am looking forward to. A really good story line for Lilly. Let's give the Scotty stuff a bit of a rest and focus on Lilly and what's going on in her life please!!
Thanks for all your info InsideR and please keep it coming, its great to know that we are listened to here and I shall certainly continue to post exactly what I think about things, ;D ;D ;D

[classictvchic14]

I am anticipating the return of Motorcycle Man!!!!!! Thank you for the information, InsideR

[irishkale]

InsideR,

Not sure if you can answer any of these Questions, but I thought I'd give it a shot since I'm really interested in the behind-the-scenes stuff:

Can you explain how the hierarchy of the production staff at CC works?

For example from the latest aired episode, "Frank's Best"-- we have Erin Mitchell, (co-producer), Mark Pellington (consulting producer), Perry Husman (producer), Veena Sud (producer), Paris Barclay (co-executive producer) , Andrea Newman (co-executive producer), Tyler Bensinger (co-executive producer), Sean Whitesell (co-executive producer), Jonathan Littman (Executive producer).

From a total naive perspective (i.e. mine) it looks like there's at least two camps -- a Bruckheimer camp and a Cold Case camp of producers. If in fact this is how it works, How do these two "camps" interact as far as the creative direction of the show, and how, for example does a "hand of god" act like Les Moonves enacted affect the camps.

And also can you explain Meredith's role in the show in its current state. Does she have total control over the storylines, etc. And will the news from this summer ("Stiehm signs deal with Paramount") affect the future direction of the show in drastic ways? Is she grooming someone to take her place or act as a liason?

And one last burning Q if you could answer -- where did the idea of adding the cast member come from? The CC camp, the Bruckheimer camp, or from CBS?

[scottyandlillyfan]

HI Insider,
Glad to see that your back with us. I know that your information is limited. Can you give us Scotty and Lilly fans some general information on whether their relations will continue to improve from last season's dealing with Christina? Will their fans get to see them draw closer to eachother?
Thanks.

[InsideR]

irishkale said:

Can you explain how the hierarchy of the production staff at CC works?

For example from the latest aired episode, "Frank's Best"-- we have Erin Mitchell, (co-producer), Mark Pellington (consulting producer), Perry Husman (producer), Veena Sud (producer), Paris Barclay (co-executive producer) , Andrea Newman (co-executive producer), Tyler Bensinger (co-executive producer), Sean Whitesell (co-executive producer), Jonathan Littman (Executive producer).

From a total naive perspective (i.e. mine) it looks like there's at least two camps -- a Bruckheimer camp and a Cold Case camp of producers. If in fact this is how it works, How do these two "camps" interact as far as the creative direction of the show, and how, for example does a "hand of god" act like Les Moonves enacted affect the camps.

And also can you explain Meredith's role in the show in its current state. Does she have total control over the storylines, etc. And will the news from this summer ("Stiehm signs deal with Paramount") affect the future direction of the show in drastic ways? Is she grooming someone to take her place or act as a liason?

And one last burning Q if you could answer -- where did the idea of adding the cast member come from? The CC camp, the Bruckheimer camp, or from CBS?

"Producer" is a Hollywood status term. The actual jobs of these people are enormously diverse including directors, writers, and a post production supervisor. But they all work directly on the show, although Jonathan Littman (who is a Big Cheese at Bruckheimer) has less day-to-day input than when the show began.

There is a credit I've never seen in a credit list that everyone uses: show runner. This is the person who really makes the crucial tactical decisions, and that would be Meredith. She is, for all intents and purposes, The Boss. Rumors were rife when she signed the deal with Paramount, but she has told everyone it's basically a writing job and she has no plans of leaving us.

The network gets involved on more strategic decisions. I know there has been a lot of pressure to get a younger audience across the board at CBS as its audience is the oldest of the big four networks. So, my guess - and it's only a guess - is that the decision to add a new younger cast member came from the network. Certainly the pressure to do something to please the kids comes from them.

I've read that this is why the original Star Trek added Chekhov. Of couse, this makes a lot of difference now that William Shatner is 74 and Walter Koenig is a youthful 69.javascript:add(%22%20;)%22)

-R

[soccerulz]

Thank InsideR. I like being able to figure out how things work and who is "over" who, and who it is that's making what decisions.

Thanks again!

[Athame]

insider said:

The network gets involved on more strategic decisions. I know there has been a lot of pressure to get a younger audience across the board at CBS as its audience is the oldest of the big four networks. So, my guess - and it's only a guess - is that the decision to add a new younger cast member came from the network. Certainly the pressure to do something to please the kids comes from them.

Where I live, I know quite a number of younger viewers, most of which I have got started on CC. I, myself, am 13, and I know another 4 of the same who watch it, one who I bribe with toffee to watch (it works, that's all that matters, right? :smile41: ) one 12 year old who likes it and an 11 year old who watches it because her name's Catherine and likes Kathryn Morris' name (it still didn't matter when I told her it was spelt and pronounced differently :smile64: )

Anyways, sorry if I rambled a little there, it's too hot today

[InsideR]

athame said:

Where I live, I know quite a number of younger viewers, most of which I have got started on CC. I, myself, am 13, and I know another 4 of the same who watch it, one who I bribe with toffee to watch (it works, that's all that matters, right? ) one 12 year old who likes it and an 11 year old who watches it because her name's Catherine and likes Kathryn Morris' name (it still didn't matter when I told her it was spelt and pronounced differently )

Anyways, sorry if I rambled a little there, it's too hot today

When I said the network wanted to please the kids I meant young adults. But I think it's great that intelligent young teens like you and your friends are watching.

-R

[Athame]

Awww, intelligent? Thankyou InsideR

[sonny]

Am I correct in thinking that CBS/CC is sucessfully pulling in a younger audience? If that is true do you really think it is due to the introduction of a new regular charater? In my personal opinion it seems more likely to be because of the actual cases. The characters, the dates of the cases [which seem to be regularly only a few years back] and the music that have played a bigger part. Also, it seems that the season 2 finale has had a lot of great feedback which may have been a factor in getting people to tune in. Also Kathryn Morris and Danny Pino are very easy on the eye [particularly now Kathryn's hair is 'normal' as alot would describe], that again, it may make younger people interested in watching the show.
Just theories of course, but it would be interesting to know what everyone who works on CC thinks about the great ratings so far and the reasons behind it.

[sukkerspinn]

Yeah, totally ditto Sonny's post!
And hey, InsideR, THANK YOU for being such a doll and telling these things to a starved crowd.

[InsideR]

sonny said:

Am I correct in thinking that CBS/CC is sucessfully pulling in a younger audience? If that is true do you really think it is due to the introduction of a new regular charater? In my personal opinion it seems more likely to be because of the actual cases. The characters, the dates of the cases [which seem to be regularly only a few years back] and the music that have played a bigger part. Also, it seems that the season 2 finale has had a lot of great feedback which may have been a factor in getting people to tune in. Also Kathryn Morris and Danny Pino are very easy on the eye [particularly now Kathryn's hair is 'normal' as alot would describe], that again, it may make younger people interested in watching the show.
Just theories of course, but it would be interesting to know what everyone who works on CC thinks about the great ratings so far and the reasons behind it.

I know that having more recent cases was part of the strategy begun before introducing a new, younger character. I doubt Tracie has been on board long enough to yet have a significant impact, but I think she will. I'm not sure if CC has a younger audience percentagewise than seasons 1 & 2, but its numbers are up overall and that means more younger viewers in absolute numbers. I loved the season 2 finale (and the whole George story line) but I don't know how that affected the demographics of the veiwership. I'll be curious to see what the "All Springsteen" ep. does. It will be a hot media event, but Bruce's fans are older than, say, John Mayer's.

In case anyone was curious why this obsession with youth is important, it's not simply a matter of Hollywood execs wanting their kids to think they're cool. The idea is that young adults are less set in their buying habits than older ones, so, on the whole, advertisers would rather sell to them. It is one of those accepted truths of the business...that, interestingly, no one has ever proven scientifically.

Now, about that hair...Quick poll (I know this is the wrong place but this is just between us): Do you think the change in the hair has
1) brought in more younger viewers
2) driven away viewers who liked the old hair
3) made no difference whatsoever?

-R

[sukkerspinn]

insider said:

Now, about that hair...Quick poll (I know this is the wrong place but this is just between us): Do you think the change in the hair has
1) brought in more younger viewers
2) driven away viewers who liked the old hair
3) made no difference whatsoever?

-R

IMO, if anyone is driven away 'cause of the change of the hair, I don't think they were really steady viewers anyway. And though I don't know, I can't possibly imagine that many has left their seats on sunday nights because they were mad about the hair. So I think I'll go with #3..
On the other hand, I personally want the old hair BAAAAACK!!!! (unless there's a deeper meaning to the sudden change, that we don't know of yet..)

Thanks again, InsideR!

[samanda]

sukkerspinn said:

IMO, if anyone is driven away 'cause of the change of the hair, I don't think they were really steady viewers anyway. And though I don't know, I can't possibly imagine that many has left their seats on sunday nights because they were mad about the hair. So I think I'll go with #3..
On the other hand, I personally want the old hair BAAAAACK!!!! (unless there's a deeper meaning to the sudden change, that we don't know of yet..)

Thanks again, InsideR!

I agree with everything you said, sukkerspinn. Especially with the hair change: I want the old hairstyle back!!!

[soccerulz]

Okay, as for the poll....

I don't think it's made a difference. I've got to agree with everything Sukkerspinn said. But....I'd kinda like to see it go back to the old style. Well, it doesn't have to be up ALL the time...but I'd like to see it up once in a while.

I sort of miss it!

[sonny]

I'm not sure Lilly's hair has made much of a difference really but I think it probably has opened alot of peoples eyes to how attractive Kathryn Morris is which might in a tiny way get more people to watch if viewers have never seen the show before then see her in the previews???
I personally like her hair down but would like to see it up once in a while. It's not as if she has to have it looking really messy when she has it up either. The pony tail she had in the flashback scenes in Saving Patrick was a good look for her, so maybe that is a possibility.
All I want is for Kathryn to be happy and for her to stop getting stick about her hair cos if she isn't happy than that ultimately risks her future on the show.

Anyways next question/s!! Probably a being a little cheeky here but can you reveal any more about the 'Motorcycle Man'? I mean, is it Patrick? Is he/or will he be a love interest for Lilly? Will there be lots of Lilly drama? I'm just soooooooooo dying to know some more about this!!!!! As is everyone I suspect. I'm not against being totally spoiled!!!!!! Whatever you can reveal InsideR I'd be really grateful for!! ;D ;D ;D