A Few Bits of Interest

[InsideR]

coeurdobscurite said:

For the episode "Maternal Instincts" the guest cast list had down a character named Lilly Rush - Age 17. Did they film some flashback scenes for Lilly and then edit them out of the TV broadcast version and if so, do you know why?

I have been trying to remember what happened, but I can't, sorry. AFAIK, the first cast member to appear in a flashback was Stillman in Glued. Look for a very youthful Jeffries in the upcoming Strange Fruit.

BTW, Strange Fruit, another Veena Sud script, will not air a week from Sunday as planned and advertised. (Ravaged, by Meredith Steihm, will run instead.) SF is a very powerful, and somewhat graphic piece about an Emmett Till-like case, that the network thought would be inappropriate for Easter.

-R

[V]

InsideR said:

BTW, Strange Fruit, another Veena Sud script, will not air a week from Sunday as planned and advertised. (Ravaged, by Meredith Steihm, will run instead.) SF is a very powerful, and somewhat graphic piece about an Emmett Till-like case, that the network thought would be inappropriate for Easter.

Thanks for all of your input, InsideR. By the way, do you know if CC obtained the rights to the song "Strange Fruit" for that upcoming episode? I don't know what prompted me to do this, but I did a little research and found some interesting information on the history of that song and how it became an anthem during the civil rights movement.

[TVFan]

Thanks for the correction InsideR. I'm very excited to hear that Veena Sud has an upcoming script!

[Ryebeach]

InsideR said:

BTW, Strange Fruit, another Veena Sud script, will not air a week from Sunday as planned and advertised. (Ravaged, by Meredith Steihm, will run instead.) SF is a very powerful, and somewhat graphic piece about an Emmett Till-like case, that the network thought would be inappropriate for Easter.

-R

Thanks for the news InsideR.

[Ryebeach]

There's an article in this week's (March 20-26) TV Guide which talks about the sometimes astronomical prices of music rights for all shows but Cold Case in particular. Can you tell us which episode so far has cost the most to secure rights to broadcast the songs used in it?

[InsideR]

Ryebeach said:

There's an article in this week's (March 20-26) TV Guide which talks about the sometimes astronomical prices of music rights for all shows but Cold Case in particular. Can you tell us which episode so far has cost the most to secure rights to broadcast the songs used in it?

I don't know the answer to that and I'm not sure if the producers would really want that information public as it might affect their bargaining position in the future. The people who would know would be the music supervisors at Whirly Girl Music, but I don't have a website URL.

I can tell you that cost is an important factor in determining what will be used.

-R

[Ryebeach]

InsideR said:

I don't know the answer to that and I'm not sure if the producers would really want that information public as it might affect their bargaining position in the future.

Oh I'm sorry InsideR, I don't want to cause any problems. Plus that answer truly is none of my concern. I was just curious. I'll just leave it that they are doing a terrific job with choosing the songs each week and I'm excited about the upcoming all John Mellencamp music episode.

[Disasterfreak]

Hey there, InsideR.

First of all I wanted to thank you (again!) for sharing all this information with us, and sincerely hope you won't get bored of posting or be found out by your co-workers... or anything that would cause you to stop. It's so interesting to get an inside view of the show.

Someone on another board mentioned soldiers and veterans often being responsible for crimes on the show. I wanted to ask (very respectfully, of course--and if you can't answer or find it an uncomfortable question, I will totally understand) if this is a coincidence or if (you think) the writers are purposefully taking an anti military stand.

[InsideR]

Disasterfreak said:

Someone on another board mentioned soldiers and veterans often being responsible for crimes on the show. I wanted to ask (very respectfully, of course--and if you can't answer or find it an uncomfortable question, I will totally understand) if this is a coincidence or if (you think) the writers are purposefully taking an anti military stand.

I think the writers would be appalled that some people believe that they're anti-military or anti-veteran. But writers are people who are paid to be creative, and creative people are almost instinctively anti-authoritarian. And there are few institutions more authoritarian than the military. So, intentional prejudice - absolutely not. Subconscious prejudice...maybe.

But, more importantly, don't forget that one of the hallmarks of mystery writing is to take the audience's expectations and defy them. Because we reflexively respect, say, the disabled veteran in "Revolution", who better to be the murderer?

-R

[Disasterfreak]

True enough. Thanks so much, InsideR. My curiosity was piqued. I'm actually happy it turned out this way, I'm not particularly for the military but it would've been disturbing if the show were taking sides.

Oh, I'm going to post your answer in the other board, too, for the benefit of the people who were wondering. I'm giving you full credit, of course.

[Ryebeach]

Hi InsideR

I was wondering at what point does the network get involved with each episode? Are they involved from the very beginning with reading the script, helping to choose the director, etc. or do they not get involved until the episode is first screend for them after shooting has completed?

[InsideR]

Ryebeach said:

I was wondering at what point does the network get involved with each episode? Are they involved from the very beginning with reading the script, helping to choose the director, etc. or do they not get involved until the episode is first screend for them after shooting has completed?

I'm too far down the chain of command to tell you for certain, but as I understand it, the network approves scripts before shooting and final cuts, but I doubt they get involved with choice of director or other stylistic decisions. Usually their concerns are clarity, offensiveness, and cost.

If a show is in trouble they may be involved with strategic planning, but this show is in good shape, so my guess is that for Cold Case it is left more in the hands of Jerry and Jonathan.

-R

[Ryebeach]

InsideR said:

I'm too far down the chain of command to tell you for certain, but as I understand it, the network approves scripts before shooting and final cuts, but I doubt they get involved with choice of director or other stylistic decisions. Usually their concerns are clarity, offensiveness, and cost.

If a show is in trouble they may be involved with strategic planning, but this show is in good shape, so my guess is that for Cold Case it is left more in the hands of Jerry and Jonathan.

-R

Thanks InsideR

[Ryebeach]

I have to say I loved the backstory on Vera from "Ravaged." I was wondering is there a set of guidelines from Meredith about who gets to have their backstories in each episode and how much is revealed or does it all come up in the writing of the episode?

Thanks.

[InsideR]

Ryebeach said:

I have to say I loved the backstory on Vera from "Ravaged." I was wondering is there a set of guidelines from Meredith about who gets to have their backstories in each episode and how much is revealed or does it all come up in the writing of the episode?

These things are usually planned well in advance, although the details are often worked out with the particular script. Vera's unhappy marriage and why (childlessness) have been known for some time, but I don't know how old an idea his old flame was. Many writers contribute to each character, with Meredith (and, by extension, Jonathan and Jerry) being the final arbiter of each character's past and future.

-R

[Sil]

Hi InsideR,
Will we know this season what did happen between Christina and Lily 9 years ago?

[InsideR]

Sil said:

Will we know this season what did happen between Christina and Lily 9 years ago?

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I doubt it. But we will find out what happened to George (from Mindhunter) to make him that way. And, of course, we'll find out what happens when he meets up with Lil again.

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[Ryebeach]

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Wow, big scoop InsideR. Thanks for letting us know. ;D This will make a lot of us fans happy to know Lilly and George will meet again. Can't wait.

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[Naj]

Wow, so that ep we are talking about over in Spoilers could be this character! Kewl!


I don't know if you know much about the actual music chosen for the episodes but we have two weeks in a row: March 20 and March 27 where there is a present day song and we can't seem to find it by a lyric search on the internet. Are all the songs been publically released that you are using for the episodes?


~Naj

[InsideR]

Naj said:

we have two weeks in a row: March 20 and March 27 where there is a present day song and we can't seem to find it by a lyric search on the internet. Are all the songs been publically released that you are using for the episodes?

Not always. Sometimes they will use a song by an unknown band, mostly for budgetary reasons, as I understand it.

-R