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Post by onebyone on Sept 28, 2004 1:33:46 GMT -5
As for "CSI - Miami", I have watched the show a few times but I really haven't been impressed by the show. I think the reason why is the acting. I don't think the plots have been paid it's just the way it's acted out. I saw the premire and it was a little weak and I do believe they killed off the wrong person. I do have a question about "CSI". I have been watching some of the reruns on Spike TV and I saw a episode where they are investigating an apparent suicide of a big wig's son. This big wig is a close friend of Catherine in the episode. I guess he was a former boyfriend of Catherine's mother. Well, I saw an episode a few days ago where the guy give Catherine a check and she didn't want it and when she confront him he said he wanted to do right by her. Who is this guy and what is he to her? In that last episode it was like she didn't like him compared to the first episode. Can anyone help me out on this? 25or6to4 They killed off Speed because the actor wanted to leave and make movies. I am not happy with this.  And that guy is Sam Braun. He was a "friend" of her mothers, but, by wrongfully using the lab, she found out that he was in fact her dad. He is also a criminal who seems related to way too many cases. At any rate, when he was first introduced, she didn't know all that drama about him, so she was nicer. |
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Post by Tracylynn on Sept 28, 2004 1:55:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer, onebyone. Because of my work schedule I don't get to see "CSI" a lot so I'm catching up by watching the reruns.
Like I said before I wasn't a big fan of "CSI - Miami" but I do believe that the character, Speed, was the best actor out of the whole bunch.
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Post by TVFan on Sept 30, 2004 10:38:19 GMT -5
I watched CSI:NY last night expecting more of the same great show I got last week, and I was disappointed!  Last night's ep ("Creatures of the Night" ?) wasn't nearly as good IMO as the pilot. It seemed just like Vegas and Miami except with different actors. I thought the show also drifted into the unplausability realm with the rat "evidence," again, making it more like its predecessors. I hope the show returns to its original flare. Minor knitpick I suppose, but I don't think that Eddie Cahill (Det. Joe Flack) is right for the part. Or maybe he's just not a very good actor. I find some of his lines laughable (not to the Caruso level though) and very unconvincing. It was especially evident IMO in the interrogation scene with Stella. Along the same line, I thought that Melina Kanakaredes was a little off last night as well. I know this is going to be unpopular, but I'm having a hard time buying her as tough (sad b/c I really like her as an actress ). Anyway, I'm hoping the show grows and finds its stride like Cold Case did last season. If played correctly, I think it could become a very well done, well written show. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!  |
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Post by blankregus on Sept 30, 2004 12:50:16 GMT -5
Hi, TVFan. Glad to see I'm not the only one here to admire the "CSI: NY" opener. Since I posted, a U.K. contact has called it a close copy of Mark Billingham's brilliant 2001 crime-novel debut, "Sleepyhead." Check Amazon.uk for more info; the synopsis of the book does sound awfully similar.  I agree, last night's was a step backward. Melina does seem too small for the role; maybe she'll grow into it. Not sure of Cahill's choices as yet, the accent among them. Hill Harper's terrific, though, and this is potentially a strong group. I have high hopes. As you note, CC didn't find itself right away. |
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Post by TVFan on Sept 30, 2004 15:49:29 GMT -5
Blankregus - I have to agree on Hill Harper. He's great. What an interesting morgue as well. I like the bright white distinction, not only to the rest of the show, but also to the other CSI morgues. I just find the whole "white" morgue a stark contrast to the typical "black" death image. Very interesting set design. |
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Post by CC Fan on Sept 30, 2004 18:11:53 GMT -5
Well, heres how I feel. I was really bored during the first 40 minutes, and I'm talking really bored, like falling asleep almost. But during the last 10 minutes, I was like at the edge of my seat. When they were working hard to find the guy and time was running out my heart was beating so fast.
So.... I figure, I might as well give this show another shot. I don't think it really has the energy yet, like the other shows do. It's slow and sometimes gets sidetracked, but we'll see.
BTW: Thread name change since we're talking about all the CSI'S.
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Post by Tracylynn on Sept 30, 2004 20:58:23 GMT -5
I'm with you, CC Fan, except I was bored throughout the whole show. I don't what it is but I didn't think it was all that good. I don't know but I feel that the actors they got are not the right ones for the characters. Personally, I thought Gary Seniese (spelling?) was bland and Melina just wasn't doing the job. I guess the whole show was bland.
I think they're pushing "CSI". Look at "Law and Order", they took some time before the did any spinoffs but "CSI" isn't wasting any time on doing spinoffs. Perhaps this is the reason why some folks such as myself are not feeling the vibe.
I was really hyped last night. I watched "Lost", which was another good episode, then switched over to "CSI", which itself was a good episode, then saw "CSI-NY" and was disappointed. I'll give it another shot before I make up my mind.
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Post by Trublu on Sept 30, 2004 21:49:22 GMT -5
Im with you, 25or6to4. I just cant get involved with NY. I really like the original, and Miami is ok, but NY just isnt doing it for me. I think the spinnoffs are coming a little too fast. Like you said, L&O took it nice and slow, and their spinoffs are doing quite nicely.
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Post by r2k on Oct 1, 2004 21:51:12 GMT -5
I'll agree with you on some things, but I like CSI: NY. There are a few bugs to work out.
1. We need more confrontations with the suspects and eventual killer that are worth seeing. On CSI, the cast has great lines at the end when they send the killer off. On CSI Miami, Horatio has an arrogant attitude you just can't help but watch. I'm hoping Gary Sinise's character can develop his own sense of style.
2. The first episode seemed dark. The second episode improved a bit.
3. The characters need a little kick. The original CSI characters are great. CSI:Miami also has great characters. Of course, the best one was killed off.
I'd give it a little time to find itself. Also remember, it is not going to be the same as the others. Can you imagine a CC spinoff in a different city? How about Without a Trace in L.A.? With CSI, I became so used to Grissom I couldn't imagine a CSI spinoff. I'll be watching CSI:NY because I think the cases a great no matter where they are.
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Post by Ryebeach on Oct 2, 2004 10:21:56 GMT -5
I don't watch any of the CSI's on a regular basis but I've seen them. Of the three CSI's, I like Miami the best. I'm a little bias because Miami is one of my favorite vacation destinations and I love seeing the scenery on this show.
The reason it's my favorite is because of Horatio's arrogance. Nobody puts him down and he always has smart quips when talking to anyone, not just the bad guys. He is not the type of person I would like to meet in person but I always find myself rooting for him on the small screen.
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Post by Ryebeach on Oct 6, 2004 22:01:34 GMT -5
What's everyone's opinion of Wolf, the new guy on Miami. At first when Horatio was interviewing him, I thought he would just be an annoying type of character but he definately grew on me, totally holding his own with Calleigh. And she can be a tough cookie. How sad when he was standing at Speedle's old locker.
Speaking of Speedle, I heard that Rory Cochrane asked to be let out of his contract and was displeased at how his character was killed off. He is also forbidden from working in television, network, cable or otherwise, until 2008 when his CSI contract was to expire. That apparently doesn't bother him as he feels he can make it well in films from now on. Not the smartest move, if you ask me.
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Post by blankregus on Oct 6, 2004 22:39:39 GMT -5
Hi, Ryebeach. If you haven't already found it, the Rory Cochrane interview you cite is at: www.csifiles.com/interviews/rory_cochrane.shtmlWolfe, the new man on "CSI: Miami," is played by Jonathan Togo. Like you, I felt he did fine. Looks to me like a slightly cleaned-up Eric Szmanda. Why mess with success? ;D |
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Post by TVFan on Oct 7, 2004 10:24:02 GMT -5
CSI: Miami - I liked Wolfe a lot. I agree with blankregus, he looks a lot like Eric Szmanda. CSI : NY - This was a much better ep, IMO, than last week. It was more character driven. We learned some more about Stella and Mac, and who knew Aiden was a facial reconstructionist? That was impressive. I still don't like Eddie Cahill, but he had like one scene so it was okay. I liked the reliance on good old fashion police work in this one too. Of course, it had the sleek science. I thought it was a nice balance between police work and science. Did anyone else get Cold Case vibes throughout this ep? The murder was from the late 80s, the perp was paraded through the police station while his parents stood there holding each other in true CC style, the music at the end, interviewing many different people, etc. While I was watching it, I kept thinking "they must be taking a page out of the CC playbook." This probably explains why I liked this ep a lot more than last week's rat trap. One last note, I really liked the twist and nod to the urban legend. If you're not familar with the story, here's a link to it from snopes.com: Dead Man Rocking [/b][/url] |
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Post by r2k on Oct 7, 2004 18:26:22 GMT -5
Last night's episode was cool. Stella had a memorable line when she saw the skeleton on the bus. "How long is this tour?" I was thinking Cold Case throughout the episode as well. The character's are starting to grow on me. This show is finding its way.
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Post by CC Fan on Oct 8, 2004 1:26:10 GMT -5
anyone watch the episode tonight? anyone notice the very obvious :hammer: hit you over the head with it sexual tension between warrik and catherine. i'm not sure i really understood that whole almost kissing scene.  since when did they ever like eachother? |
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Post by TVFan on Oct 8, 2004 10:12:11 GMT -5
CC Fan - I watched it. Regarding the "almost kiss" between Warrick and Catherine, I remember a scene from Season 4 (?) where I thought the writers were going to take us there, but it never materialised. It was the episode where Catherine works a home invasion and she thinks the scene has been cleared, but it hasn't. The perp comes through some glass screen and attacks her. She has to strip down and change outside the truck (b/c her clothes are evidence), and Warrick is standing there while she does. I don't remember what was said exactly, but I got vibes from them. He was really concerned about her after the incident. It's quite possible that it's just me though. ![]() foujylos.notlong.com [/IMG] Having said all of that, I felt that the scene last night ("Down the Drain") was from out in left field. I wonder if it will be explored all season or if it was just a one time deal. Very odd. The rest of the episode was very interesting. At the end, I found myself asking "how did we get from the body in the drain to the militia pyro-maniac?" I liked all of the twists and turns the story took throughout the episode. It hooked me from the beginning and kept through the end. I thought it was well done.  Poor Greg! Hasn't he given enough? Did the son kill the other kid b/c he disrespected his mother? They never made it clear, but I assumed by his reaction to Catherine's quip that this was the motive for the murder. |
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Post by Trublu on Oct 8, 2004 18:42:37 GMT -5
My first thought was after the ep last night was :Catherine and Warrick? went kinda over my head with that one... but the case itself was really good. the bombs and sara trying to get the door off, i thought was kinda funny, even though they were in danger at the time  me and my crazy thoughts... it kept me guessing. and never mind getting violent material of the net or something... that guy just skipped right over that and went to introducing it to his kid himself.. kinda desturbing. and greg... ;D lol thats all i can say |
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Post by Tati on Oct 11, 2004 13:19:17 GMT -5
I have a general question about CSI: don't you guys feel that on the show they do stuff that real CSIs don't do? I don't think that in real life a CSI would talk to witnessess or suspects like they do the show. Isn't that the detectives job?
BTW, this season's premiere hasn't aired here yet, but all I can say about Warrick and Catherine is: noooo !!!
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Post by TVFan on Oct 11, 2004 15:50:46 GMT -5
Tatiana - I often wonder this same thing. I read somewhere a while ago that real life Las Vegas CSIs are strictly scientists and not cops. The article even went so far as to say that they are "civilians" just like the rest of us. It annoys me to no end that they interview suspects on the show. However, the same article mentioned that Miami CSIs are more than civilians, but less than cops. I guess that makes it more plausable that they would be interviewing suspects. Finally, NYC CSIs are cops (according to said article). In this case, I would assume that they interview suspects, although, this is not the case on the various Law and Orders (not that they are the authroity of truth, but they strike me as more credible for some reason). Having said all of this, I guess the shows would not be the same if the CSIs didn't interview the suspects. If they stayed true to form, then the shows would have to have a strong detective cast as well as the scientist cast. In other words, they would shift their focus from science to science/cops. So even though it annoys me, I guess I'd rather they stay the way they are. |
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Post by Trublu on Oct 11, 2004 17:26:46 GMT -5
As much as it may be incorrect, i think it wouldnt be the same with out it. Ive heard several references on SVU likw 'lets get the csi's in here' close to that. it took me a while to firgure out that actuall csi's are the ones who do most of the science stuff. But the show is more interesting with them investigating perps.
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Last night's ep ("Creatures of the Night" ?) wasn't nearly as good IMO as the pilot. It seemed just like Vegas and Miami except with different actors. I thought the show also drifted into the unplausability realm with the rat "evidence," again, making it more like its predecessors. I hope the show returns to its original flare. 
since when did they ever like eachother?
me and my crazy thoughts... it kept me guessing. 
