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Post by ninja1088 on May 22, 2010 14:29:50 GMT -5
Sadly, just as I suspected, Cold Case was canceled due to the almighty dollar. I hope he's not expecting any of us to feel good or happy with his explanation.
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Post by Electrophile on May 22, 2010 16:32:48 GMT -5
Actually, it's perfectly understandable to me, even if I don't like it. Cold Case is an expensive show to put on the air. The most expensive part of putting the show together is getting the rights to play the music. It's why we haven't and won't see CC on DVD anytime soon. Bands like The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, The Doors and even artists like Frank Sinatra all command beaucoup bucks to license their material for commercial use.
Of course the music and the usage of it in flashbacks and during the finale is what made the show, but it's also what broke it, sadly.
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Post by ninja1088 on May 22, 2010 17:08:35 GMT -5
Isn't that the bitter hard truth. Espcially in hard economic times, CC had sadly become too expensive to keep. I've heard rumors maybe ABC or TNT will pick it up. Long shot...but there's always hope.
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on May 22, 2010 19:03:30 GMT -5
Which is complete BS. Sure the music made the show, but they could have easily found obscure artists, obscure music, obscure songs, and used them. All this talk about CC being expensive, and yet look at the single artist episodes for S7
Ray Charles
The Doors
Pink Floyd
The Rolling Stones
Sure, get some of the hugest names in music so you have to spend huge bucks on royalties; and then cancel the show, because of money. -_-
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Post by Electrophile on May 22, 2010 20:39:02 GMT -5
Which is complete BS. Sure the music made the show, but they could have easily found obscure artists, obscure music, obscure songs, and used them. All this talk about CC being expensive, and yet look at the single artist episodes for S7 Ray Charles The Doors Pink Floyd The Rolling Stones Sure, get some of the hugest names in music so you have to spend huge bucks on royalties; and then cancel the show, because of money. -_- Using obscure songs or obscure artists would have ruined I think, the point of the music/flashbacks. It's supposed to take you back to that moment, when whatever is going on happened, and give you a snapshot if you will, of that time period. Could some random song by someone we've never heard of accomplish that? Probably. Would a song by Diana Ross and the Supremes in an episode set in 1963 do it better? Absolutely. You know that band, you know that music. It takes you right there, no suspension of disbelief needed. It gives you the feeling of being there when the song playing is one that would be heard on the Top 40 radio station at the time. It adds to the overall drama of the show. Sometimes the single-artist episodes are used incongruous to the time period the songs are from (John Lennon, Pink Floyd, Pearl Jam, The Rolling Stones), but then you're looking at the songs' lyrics, not when they were released. The lyrics set the scene in which the song is featured in, so they're chosen for a reason. I mean, all the PF songs in Flashover were PERFECTLY placed, if you read the lyrics and then look at the scenes they were used in. Random songs by random artists can't do that, at least not with the same power. I don't think the writers knew the show would be canceled or that there were budget issues in relation to the music licensing, otherwise those artists wouldn't have been used. |
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Post by ninja1088 on May 22, 2010 20:43:16 GMT -5
I truly don't get how the writers could have NOT known the writing was on the wall. They quit shooting in Philly in Season 7 to save $$$, they had Jeremy Ratchford, Thom Berry and Tracie Thoms miss six episodes or so a piece to save money, and there weren't as many older cases... in the early 60s or earlier...
The writing was sadly on the wall...there was no excuse for them not to at least write a better script.
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Post by Electrophile on May 22, 2010 20:58:16 GMT -5
If they had known the show would be canceled, we would have had a series finale episode, rather than just a season finale episode. Also, it would have been advertised closer to the end of the season that the series was ending and these were the last episodes. Most, if not 95% of shows that are canceled will do that. We didn't know the show would be canceled definitively until a few days ago.
There were rumors of course, but the writers can't write shows based around the rumor or the suggestion of cancellation.
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on May 22, 2010 21:23:38 GMT -5
No, but what they could have done was something similar to the series finale of Heroes, and the season finale of Supernatural. For Heroes, what they did was end in the show in such a way that it would have been fine if it ended there, but it could have also gone on,
Same deal with Supernatural. One of the head-writers of the show left after this season, but what they did was this: Wrap up the current story arc (something to do with the apocalypse); throw in one of the hugest Deus Ex Machina's ever, and set it up so that while the show could have been the series finale; it didn't have to be.
The writers of Cold Case could have done the same thing. For example, they could have shown Lilly taking the job with the FBI. So as a series finale, it would be "Oh ok, she joined the FBI, cool cool" and as a season finale it could have been, "Ok, she joined the FBI. Be interesting to see how that pans out next season."
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Post by wisechild on May 22, 2010 21:41:43 GMT -5
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Post by nomnivore on May 23, 2010 3:37:16 GMT -5
I thought the season finale of Season Six was done as "just in case it gets cancelled" finale- I think it would have made a good finale, with Lilly learning her dad is there for her.
But maybe the writers wanted to write a "possible series finale" but someone higher up nixxed that? We don't really know.
I really do wish we'd had a proper finale...there are so many things they could have done.
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Post by eduardo on May 23, 2010 17:44:41 GMT -5
I would have done this:
-Jeffries solves the 1993 case and retires.
-Stillman could be either alone or with Yates.
-Kat and Bell together.
-Lilly with all of her family.
-Vera with Easton
Unfortunately we didn't have any closure
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Post by cclatinfan on May 23, 2010 21:53:32 GMT -5
I would have done this: -Jeffries solves the 1993 case and retires. -Stillman could be either alone or with Yates. -Kat and Bell together. -Lilly with all of her family. -Vera with Easton -Lilly with all of her family + Saccardo. I didn't like him when he first showed up, but, he grew up on me.  Too bad we didn't have a proper series finale. |
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Post by lonewolf634 on May 26, 2010 0:59:34 GMT -5
I think the idea of Lilly leaving to join the FBI would be cool. One thing we never knew for sure, unless I missed it, was why Lilly became a cop in the first place.
As for the series finale thing...Ghost Whisperer also advertised their final show as a "season finale" even after they announced they were canceling it.
I hate to sound like a naysayer but I dont think anyone else is going to pick up the show because it probably WAS expensive to make. Think about it...first they had to go beg for rights to the songs (with as many as 4 to 6 songs per episode). They had to pay TWO actors for several characters per episode, they shot alot of footage at least at the start with different kinds of film, etc. I dont think some cable channel would be willing to put out that kind of money so unless ABC would be willing to pick it up I think its gone forever. And we seem to be the only people even talking about the show at this point. Its like it was put in a box and stuck on a shelf in the basement.
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Post by Electrophile on May 26, 2010 12:52:07 GMT -5
Just like those "cold cases" that sat in storage units at Philly homicide. Now we look to TNT to be the show's Cold Case unit and give us a second chance. It couldn't hurt.
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Post by ninja1088 on May 26, 2010 17:21:45 GMT -5
According to another poster, CBS won't release the rights to allow TNT or anyone else to make new episodes of Cold Case. $##@@ is what that is.
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Post by nomnivore on May 28, 2010 4:30:11 GMT -5
That's just mean. They wouldn't let the writers know that it was the end (so they could write an actual finale).
You suck, CBS
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Post by lillyrush1977 on May 28, 2010 13:37:02 GMT -5
According to another poster, CBS won't release the rights to allow TNT or anyone else to make new episodes of Cold Case. $##@@ is what that is. That does just really suck, I mean if you are going to cancel it at least allow some other network to see they can make a go of it. Boo CBS! |
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Post by lillyrush1977 on May 28, 2010 13:37:38 GMT -5
I would have done this: -Jeffries solves the 1993 case and retires. -Stillman could be either alone or with Yates. -Kat and Bell together. -Lilly with all of her family. -Vera with Easton Unfortunately we didn't have any closure Let's not forget...Stillman retires and Lilly is promoted to Lt. |
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Post by ninja1088 on May 30, 2010 0:07:16 GMT -5
I think the idea of Lilly leaving to join the FBI would be cool. One thing we never knew for sure, unless I missed it, was why Lilly became a cop in the first place. As for the series finale thing...Ghost Whisperer also advertised their final show as a "season finale" even after they announced they were canceling it. I hate to sound like a naysayer but I dont think anyone else is going to pick up the show because it probably WAS expensive to make. Think about it...first they had to go beg for rights to the songs (with as many as 4 to 6 songs per episode). They had to pay TWO actors for several characters per episode, they shot alot of footage at least at the start with different kinds of film, etc. I dont think some cable channel would be willing to put out that kind of money so unless ABC would be willing to pick it up I think its gone forever. And we seem to be the only people even talking about the show at this point. Its like it was put in a box and stuck on a shelf in the basement. True... but in the same breath, several articles I read said if Cold Case had been on any network but CBS, it would have probably lasted one more season, as it still brought in respectable ratings. But for CBS, with the CSI franchise (which is slowly aging and starting to fall as well) and Leslie M looking to cut costs, Cold Case was expendable. By this time next year.... so will two of the CSIS as well IMO. As for not writing a series finale episode....it wasn't just rumors like in Season 6... the writing clearly was on the wall. It is what it is though. |
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Post by gokyuzunforveti on Jun 5, 2010 8:21:35 GMT -5
I only found this out recently and I was really, really sad. I mean there was never a show before that I grew so attached to, that I really loved. I waited for every episode like New Year's Eve and my Birthday fell on the same day.
This sounds overly dramatic, but that's how it is with Cold Case. All other shows just caused more rational reactions, but Cold Case touched me emotionally, too. I love it for that, because that rarely ever happens in real life to me.
Seriously, I feel like crying.
It was expected, yes, but this decision feels stupid nonetheless. There are so many more or less bad shows out there, which should be cancelled IMHO, but, no, it has to be Cold Case.
Thank you, CBS. For cancelling one of the best shows. For not releasing the show's rights, so others can pick it up.
I'm not one for feeling intense emotions and making irrational decisions, but I hate you guys right now. (_ _|||) (feels depressed and goes mopping in a corner)
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Too bad we didn't have a proper series finale. 
