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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 20, 2006 21:27:09 GMT -5
But I don't think Ray is the type to settle down , although he might care for Lilly it's a deep friendship but the real reason why they aren't together is mainly due to her inability to get close to someone
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Post by boxman on Oct 20, 2006 23:35:38 GMT -5
One thing interesting about Hollywood, is that they like to portray drinking *milk* as some sort of thing that recovering alcoholics like to consume. Sheeze.... Look, I went on the wagon for a while to control my drinking, but I just drank plain Coca-Cola to avoid alcohol...not milk!!  Anyway... So we *do* know that Cold Case likes to touch upon alcoholism--there are so many episodes with alcoholics in it. So is there some significance to the milkshake?? If we assume "white" = "innocence" and "purity" because of the snow scenes, do we also extend that to the milkshake?? Because the milkshake *does* symbolize an important connection between Lilly and Ray, both after her assault at age ten, and Ray's assault in the present. Does the white colour of the milkshake indicate some sort of innocence and purity to the "Love" and "Bond" between Ray and Lilly?? Why didn't Ray do the "manly" thing and ask Lilly for a stiff Kentucky Bourbon to ease his pain? Why did he whimp out with a "milkshake"?? Hmmm..... Something to really think about, huh?  |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 21, 2006 0:27:59 GMT -5
but the question then becomes, "What kind of milkshake was it?"
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Post by boxman on Oct 21, 2006 10:54:43 GMT -5
but the question then becomes, "What kind of milkshake was it?" LOL... Could've been a Pina Colada, or something else huh?? Lilly Rush-Shake: Two parts Vanilla Ice Cream One part Milk Two shots Vodka (from mom's cupboard) Two shots Kahlua (stashed by mom's bed) Five Ice Cubes Blend ingredients together, Pour into plastic cup, Act like you went to McDonalds! |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 21, 2006 10:55:38 GMT -5
Maybe Ray knows that even he can't break her invisiable walls around her, that it is a deep friendship but she has changed since they were younger.
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Post by eli on Oct 21, 2006 12:57:27 GMT -5
Lilly Rush-Shake........ Act like you went to McDonalds! Thanks for the recepe boxman!!! ;D I'm so gonna do try that out on next monday when schoolday gets boring enough...... |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 21, 2006 21:45:45 GMT -5
mmm...sounds good.
*drinks a shot of jagermeister.*
Anyways did you know there are tests that show what type of person you are based on your favorate flavor of icecream.
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Post by Disasterfreak on Oct 22, 2006 0:53:09 GMT -5
Sorry I haven't read everyone's comments. I'll go back and read then ASAP. Not bad, not bad at all. Actually got some tears out of me. Not the dripping kind, but the welling-up kind. These parent-children episodes really are the most touching, for me at least. And yes, yes, I'm sure someone's mentioned how strangely Lilly stared at the headstone in the end--I found it strange too. Although I don't wanna believe she lost a baby in her past, this may sadly be the case. I don't want it to be true because it's TOO much drama, would be way over the top for a non-soap, but oh well. Maybe she's just reflecting on her own family life. Maybe there was another little sister who died. I prefer that alternative to it being her own baby. The case was really good. Heartwrenching to a fault. They did have some booboos though. The progression of postpartum psychosis was pretty good, but I don't for one minute believe she could have had just that ONE moment of psychosis. She must have raved later on too. Maybe not when the police were there but afterwards. Psychosis comes and goes, but usually the acute psychotic periods last more than a couple of hours. Maybe she DID have more of these crises afterwards, but everyone just thought it was due to her grief. Anyway what I REALLY find improbable is how NO ONE saw her screaming and raving in the middle of night with snow all over the place. Pfff. But ahhh... creative license. The episode was worth it. And, man, that babysitter--what I wouldn't give to ram my iron-studded foot forcefully into her butt. What an insufferable irresponsible fool--cough syrup! Drunk! Just the thought of it makes me wanna wring her neck, and I don't even have kids. Same goes for the best friend of the year... but at least SHE showed some remorse. Made me wanna chuckle when she said she was "mad" at the mom (forgot her name). Mad, my a$$! She's screwing around with her husband and she's "mad"  There goes another kick in the rump. But at least she grew up later and realized what she'd done wrong. Geez. As for the Ray scene... well, he didn't look all that beat up to me. Anyway, their scene was sort of poignant in a childhood sweetheart kinda way, and I would have enjoyed it much more if they hadn't been hitting the sheets last season, that's all. Them rolling around together was overmuch and killed any deeper sort of sentiment in my mind at least. |
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Post by Disasterfreak on Oct 22, 2006 1:07:56 GMT -5
Nice catch LII. I just rewatched that scene from "8 Years" where Lilly tells Sally all about Ray. She tells her that she only knew him 2 weeks when she took off with him and almost married him in Knoxville. Definitely a continuity goof. I like the new story better, though. Sorry about the double post, but I couldn't shut up about this. Excellent catch, LII! They should have been more careful and made the Ray who was with her at 10 different from the guy she almost ran away with though. It would have served a better purpose. But that's just a detail really. Now if they make Ray be PATRICK as well, I'll be (more) annoyed. Don't think that could be the case, seeing as Patrick slept with Christina... no self-respecting woman would ever allow him back into her life with the speed Lilly did last season. It would be an unforgivable breach of continuity. ... And yet another edit. I must agree with Kadoom on her analysis of the "did Lilly have a child or not" controversy. She DOES seem to empathize (sp?) more with the child--with all children, actually. Never with the moms. Not till they've proven themselves worthy (Molly in this case, Rosie in Fly Away). I voted GOOD, not excellent, btw. But it was a GOOD good. |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 22, 2006 11:20:41 GMT -5
Another thing I had noticed, When Lilly was telling the mother about her childhood it had seemed to me like she was making some of it up just to get the mother to confess
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Post by coldcasegirl on Oct 22, 2006 12:05:07 GMT -5
haha, yeah it did kind of seem like that LLI2, and if it WAS true, she might of just had a hard time remembering it, or maybe she kinda 'choked up' and was trying not to show any emotions toward her life...?hmmm.. ;D
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Post by TVFan on Oct 22, 2006 18:43:50 GMT -5
I agree with this sediment, DF. It's like they presented this possible relationship in the wrong order. They took Lilly out of character with this stranger last season, and now they're going back and explaining why she did what she did. Perhaps, different creative minds saw things differently. In any event, I like the way things are going this season much better. Giving Lil and Ray a deep history that reaches back to her attack at age 10, makes a much stronger case for Ray than her jumping on the back of his motorcycle outta nowhere.
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Post by boxman on Oct 22, 2006 19:48:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the recepe boxman!!! ;D I'm so gonna do try that out on next monday when schoolday gets boring enough...... HUH?? ;D mmm...sounds good. *drinks a shot of jagermeister.* Ha ha ha.... OMG!! I'm a "lovelorn housewife"!!!  www.personalityquiz.net/test/icecream.htm |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 24, 2006 1:53:03 GMT -5
OMG!! I'm a "Feminine Female and/or Macho Man!!"
and I is creative.
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Post by jambled on Oct 28, 2006 9:10:33 GMT -5
I'm with you there! I think she was really overly forceful at the end. I mean, sure, the mothere killed her own child which just seems so painfully wrong but it was because of a mental illness.
This is great! Beyond great! I love the 'act like you went to McDonalds'. Hee.
Meanwhile... I loved this ep. Well, liked. The case didn't do it a whole lot for me although I thought the son; both as young and old; carried off the character really well. He was believable when he said he didn't even pick up his own baby, which made me really sad. I like when Lilly and Kat go do interviews together as well. Girl power and all that; but they share glances that make more sense than when the guys do. If you know what I mean.
Absolutely adored the Ray scene. Love him. It just spoke of this huge history that holds them together (and believe me, my ex and I have been hanging on and talking for the last four years because we came together when I was... Well, F**ked up at best... and you just don't let go of people who've seen you in moments like that) and that Lil can't let go of. He's this rock that's always been there, even if he's miles away. And come on, he looks like that.
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Post by eurache on Nov 8, 2007 6:23:50 GMT -5
RE-AIRS NOVEMBER 13, 2007
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Post by krystalnjoeysmom on Nov 26, 2007 18:33:37 GMT -5
My husband went to school with the man who played the older Devon.
This was a sad episode too. He had to grow up believing that he killed the baby, unable to hold his own.
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Post by eurache on Jul 13, 2008 18:35:21 GMT -5
TNT REPEAT - 11PM ET- JULY 16, 2008
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Post by eurache on Sept 25, 2008 8:42:05 GMT -5
TNT REPEAT - 10/1/08 - 4AM ET
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Post by stillmanfan on Mar 17, 2010 20:36:29 GMT -5
Thought this episode was okay but thought they didn't need to have Ray show up or get hurt. I liked how Stillman looked at Lilly when her phone rang then when she's walking with Will, he asks, can't he just leave a message? LOL
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Anyway... So we *do* know that Cold Case likes to touch upon alcoholism--there are so many episodes with alcoholics in it. So is there some significance to the milkshake??
There goes another kick in the rump. But at least she grew up later and realized what she'd done wrong. Geez.
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