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Post by silversideup on Sept 3, 2009 16:45:08 GMT -5
Found this minor spoiler here; reguarding Nick Vera for Season 7, Just scroll down to find the spoiler.. Tiny Cold Case Spoiler Thanks for posting that! It doesn't sound that good actually. I hope he will not have a serious disease or something like that. But anyway, however it will go, I'm sure this season is going to be both emotional and thrilling.  And I'm really looking forward to seeing that! |
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Post by Tati on Sept 3, 2009 19:33:10 GMT -5
Found this minor spoiler here; reguarding Nick Vera for Season 7, Just scroll down to find the spoiler.. Tiny Cold Case Spoiler Very interesting, thanks for sharing, LII. If I had to take a wild guess I'd say Nick goes to the doctor and finds out he's in risk of a heart attack because of the extra weight. I only hope this storyline doesn't get too depressing, and obviously, I hope he won't die!  |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 9, 2009 17:20:49 GMT -5
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Post by toddsmitts on Sept 9, 2009 22:25:15 GMT -5
Seems I correctly speculated that Moe won't get off but rather will get bail. It's interesting, since the show has very rarely explored what happens to a doer after they're led away in handcuffs (and flash briefly to their younger selves).
It's quite possible that doers may be granted bail. It's also possible that their lawyer may claim a confession was coerced and get it thrown out, maybe show their clients' rights (i.e. demanding a lawyer) weren't upheld. They could discredit a witness' decades-old account on the stand, point out a lack of physical evidence, or spin a tale of self-defense.
Almost makes me wish there was a Jack McCoy-type character for the story to shift to, once the arrest is made. ;D
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 10, 2009 8:12:10 GMT -5
The article also has me very worried for Lilly, she is really appears about ready to lose it big time.
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Post by 00bomber on Sept 10, 2009 8:54:26 GMT -5
[ To be honest, I think they seem to be going to the "single artist" well a bit too often now. Could they be running out of period music they haven't used yet? I highly doubt it, they probably are doing it to honor the great musicians from the past. They aren't doing a single artist episode too often, there were three in Season 6. The way that I see it, it's more expensive to have a one artist episode than mulitiples. I'm probably being biased because Alternative music is my favourite, but there are so many more options than in the mainstream its not funny. They should go that way a bit more. |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Sept 10, 2009 15:06:55 GMT -5
Agreed, there's so much more music of this generation, and even the past generation that they could use, but they won't do it. So far we've had.
Rap
hip-hop
country
r&b
alternative
grunge
adult contemporary
pop
rock and roll
alt rock
but we haven't had
punk
hardcore
metal
hard rock
emo
screamo
I could name more.
Yeah, I have this feeling that she's going to shoot Moe at some point during the season.
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Post by lollie62 on Sept 13, 2009 10:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by leni810 on Sept 13, 2009 12:25:48 GMT -5
Shooting Moe maybe not but there will be problems for sure... I'm curious to see what Saccardo will "suggest"... They maybe go back to something firstly mentionned about a suspect chased by Saccardo who "fell" from a roof... Thanks, for the pictures, lollie! (Btw DP looks better better as he gets older!  ) |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 13, 2009 12:53:18 GMT -5
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Post by lollie62 on Sept 14, 2009 5:47:55 GMT -5
Sorry I'd forgotten this rule ! Thanks LII2 for rehosting the pictures here so . I'll try not forgetting next time.
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Post by ccfangirl on Sept 15, 2009 9:49:59 GMT -5
Loving those pictures, thanks for posting them.
I hope that ADA Bell returns, I would like to see him in action and hopefuly (eventually) really stick it to Moe.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 15, 2009 9:51:55 GMT -5
Loving those pictures, thanks for posting them. I hope that ADA Bell returns, I would like to see him in action and hopefuly (eventually) really stick it to Moe. He is returning, he's in the first episode |
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Post by Naj on Sept 17, 2009 7:48:53 GMT -5
This was in TVGude in Ask Ausiello. I really think this is spoilerish. I really didn't care to know this information and who was coming back and the premise of season seven. It takes away from the spontaneity,  snipped..... Ask Ausiello TV GuideQuestion: Any Cold Case scoop on Lilly Rush? —SammyAusiello: “We are going to start where we left off — with the military school case,” explains Kathryn Morris. “Daniel Baldwin, who plays Moe Kitchener, the guy who tried to kill me and was covering up the murder we solved at the military school, gets off on bond. That means you have to be a good boy for nine months, so for the whole season we have this cat-and-mouse thing going where we are trying to screw each other over. Daniel will be in and out throughout the season. Lily has always been on the side of the law and it has always worked for her, but this time the justice system is not working to her advantage. This guy tried to kill her and she is a little shaken and a lot angry. She might just have to take things into her own hands. She might go a little rogue.” She’ll get an assist from returning lover Bobby Cannavale, who “has been undercover in narcotics for awhile. He starts sending me signals from undercover that maybe I want to reconnect with him. He [ends up] helping me with the Moe Kitchener situation. Sometimes he’s had to blue the lines himself.” |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 17, 2009 8:01:42 GMT -5
Thanks for posting this one Naj, I don't like that Lilly's going to this dark side at all, but I'm interested to see how this whole thing plays out
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Post by leni810 on Sept 17, 2009 13:57:03 GMT -5
No character can be totally positive, it's unreallistic, and for Lil we rarely see some of her dark and bad side, only the burst out about Christina and the fight with her dad and she had the explanation of the sadness.
Now there is nothing to soften it apart from her shock. But there is justice, good or bad, to take care of what happenned.
But she looks for revenge... In a way, she drops on the level of the offenders...
I really love this turn, finally!
"(about Moe) so for the whole season we have this cat-and-mouse thing going where we are trying to screw each other over." It seems that the real Moe is similar to the "fake" Moe in her mind...
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 25, 2009 8:26:09 GMT -5
The rest of the KM interview ( the spoilers part) Snipped from www.thefutoncritic.com/rant.aspx?id=20090925_coldcaseJH: Bobby Cannavale is coming back this season and the chemistry is really strong between the two characters. Lilly has always been so guarded so how is this time different?
KM: We've had a few different love dynamics before but at this stage in the game, I think Saccardo represents a cop who's on equal footing with Lilly and they both have had to blur the lines to get the job done so I think there's a deeper understanding. It's not like we're going to go for candlelit dinners but it's more like, "Hey, I'm a narcotics cop and I've had to get down and dirty and take care of some serious stuff. I respect you." They make each other better cops and they've walked in each other's shoes so there's not as much to talk about. Maybe earlier in the series, Lilly was going through different things and she wasn't going to return a guy's calls and now she's evolved and Saccardo is a real man. He's a cop and a man, he's rough around the edges and so is she. He gets her to lighten up a little bit and she gets him to not take himself so seriously. In the end, people want Lilly to solve the case and for us to wrap things up in the montage and not have a wedding episode and all that.
JH: You had some fiery scenes with Daniel Baldwin last year. What can we expect this season when he shows up again?
KM: I love him. When you've lived in Daniel Baldwin's shoes there's something else that you bring to the party. It was really great to go toe-to-toe with him and so much so that he worked his way into the cat and mouse game we're going to have this season. Saccardo will be helping me navigate that situation and, in a way, I have to take justice into my own hands and question my own integrity and character and how to protect myself and also stand up for myself. To answer your question more directly, I love the Pandora's box that's opened about the cat and mouse game. We're just going to try to mess with each other and the ante is going to be raised every step of the way. He's just got a devil inside of him and it really works. There's nothing more exciting to me than when Lilly is getting a little rattled and she's having to deal with some vulnerability and sensibility and she just sticks to the landing and goes toe-to-toe with a badass.
JH: Last season, there was the more personal story with Lilly's father (played by Raymond J. Barry). Is that personal kind of story a different muscle for you to utilize as an actor?
KM: Reflecting on the seven years, Lilly, in the beginning, had no personal life. "Don't ask me about my diary! Don't ever look at my cat with the one eye! Just leave me alone!" As time has gone on, her mother drank herself to death and now with her father she's having blow ups at him and he's still stuck around and they kind of like each other. There's a respect and there's caring and love there so now I think she's going to let somebody in and the way it's going to play out there's going to be some other drama that goes on with her dad and his other children and what's my role in that. It stirs some old feelings but also opens some possibilities to not be so brooding and by myself. Maybe that family dinner wouldn't really kill me but I might learn something about myself. Maybe I'll actually put a case down for a minute and might gain something. Maybe I'll be a better cop if I took a night off for the crazy family dinner.
JH: Music is such a big deal on the show as evident in the way it is incorporated in episodes. Ray Charles is featured in this weekend's premiere. Who else is coming up?
KM: We have an all-Philly soul music episode coming up. Right now, we can pretty much get anyone we want and that's a compliment being the little show that could. Now I'm always saying, "Do you think we can get Led Zeppelin now?"
JH: Any thoughts on the future assuming the show keeps going a few more years?
KM: We have such a great family here and the cast and crew couldn't be closer. We're so blessed in this environment and I would love for it to continue with all things prosperous and beautiful and on an upswing and that's where I feel that we are. |
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Post by leni810 on Sept 25, 2009 13:51:50 GMT -5
Interesting...
It seems that they'll cope with the "Saccardo thing" in too good way! (Look that I'll finally like it...)
As for Moe... From KM's words it seems that, eventually, Lil will blur the lines due to fear or danger and not due to empathy at all... Hmm... I'd like in the other way a bit...
Anyway... Let's see... Sunday is too near, finally!!
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Sept 28, 2009 15:51:44 GMT -5
Alright, posting this here, because even though it pertains to 7.01 this will still contain heavy spoilers.
After watching 'The Crossing' it dawned on me that this entire Lilly vs Moe thing is starting to look a lot like the Sumerian myth of Inanna and Shukaletuda. For those unfamiliar with the myth, it goes (in short) as this:
One day the goddess Inanna decides to travel the earth in order to find justice, and false; and the criminal against the just. At some point during her journey she grows tired and decides to take a nap under a tree. Enter Shukaletuda, a gardener who for some reason cannot make things grow. When he spots Inanna he decides to take out his aggression on her by raping her.
When the goddess wakes up, she knows what happened to her, and goes out to seek revenge against her attacker. Now to put it mildly, Inanna winds up killing a lot of innocent people (turns water into blood, causes storms and plagues, blocks highways.)
Meanwhile, Shukaletuda, is now scared out of his mind, because he knows that Inanna is after him, and that she will kill him.
The story ends when Inanna finally goes to her father, who by some means shows her where Shukaletuda is. When Inanna finds him, her attacker makes up this really stupid excuse as to why he did what he did. Feeling no compassion, Inanna informs him that he will be immortalized in song, and then she kills him.
As I mentioned earlier, I'm seeing the parallels between Lilly/Moe and Inanna/Shukaletuda.
1. Both Inanna's and Lilly's journey begin when they seek out justice, falsehood, and the criminal against the just. In Lilly's case it's figuring out who killed Kate.
2. At some point both females become unaware, Inanna while she falls asleep, and Lilly while reading the letter from her father.
3. There seems to be a parallel between Moe and Shukaletuda in that Shukaletuda cannot make anything grow, and ultimately blames someone else. Moe (if my memory serves correctly) cannot make the higher ups stop accepting female recruits, and ultimately blames women.
4. Shukaletuda takes out his anger on Inanna by raping her. Moe takes out his aggression on Lilly by knocking her and her car into the river.
5. Both Inanna and Lilly are rendered unconscious, or they remain unconscious during or because of the attacks.
6. When both Inanna and Lilly wake up they realize what happened to them.
7. The justice system in the beginning defends the attacker (One of the gods tells Shukaletuda to hide in a certain city. The judge releases Moe onto the streets.)
8. Inanna and Lilly start to take matters into their own hands. Inanna by killing a bunch of people, and Lilly by also doing some rather unorthodox things (barging into the men's restroom, and stalking Moe.)
9. Just as Shukaletuda becomes scared of Inanna finding him, so too does Moe seem like he may be afraid of Lilly finding him.
Also, the expression on Lilly's face at the end was one I don't think I've seen before. It was one of pure rage, and Lilly looked like she would have no problem killing him right then and there.
If they do follow this myth, then my feeling that Lilly will eventually kill Moe has only increased.
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Post by ninja1088 on Sept 30, 2009 0:42:09 GMT -5
I just can't see them making Lily a killer unless she has to do it in self defense. For her to do it for any other reason would destroy the chracter of her.
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