CSI / CSI:Miami / CSI:NY (Old Thread)

[Ryebeach]

I finally got around to last Monday's CSI:Miami with the pirates. I thought it was pretty good, albeit quite outlandish, but that's expected. I thought it was intersting how they used race as the reason behind it all. I thought that made for a good story. The cannabilism was pretty gross but I just loved when Emily Proctor is talking to one of the survivors suspected of eating Chip and she says she wants the survivors stomache pumped. He says that won't bring Chip back and she says it may bring back a part of him. Too Funny.

The other laugh out loud part came when Horatio was interviewing the guy suspected of shooting the first rocket launcher and Horatio asked him how he bruised his eye. The guy said he tripped and fell. And Horatio asked, "Into a Rocket Launcher?"

I love this show.

[CC Fan]

Tell me they don't look identical.

[Tracylynn]

I'll take Eric from the original "CSI" over that guy. Eric is better looking plus his character has some flavor while that guy from Miami seems dull.

Tracylynn

[TVFan]

I don't really like the direction the show is going with the team. I don't want them split up, and it seems like a plot point just to have a plot point. I'd rather they focus on the cases and not who's on whose team.

Oh well, maybe it will go away in the eps to come.

[CC Fan]

so... this thread fell a little... so first I'll talk about

CSI:
I thought this episode was kind of eh. I really don't like that the team is seperated, but since they were going in that direction, I would've liked to see them examine it more. How will it affect Catherine and Gill's friendship? What was it like for Catherine to step into that new position? It just seemed like it wasn't a big deal. Hopefully, they'll either go back to the way they were or they'll get into that storyline more. It could be really interesting, guess we'll just have to wait and see.

CSI Miami:
I thought it was ok. The ending really surprised me because I thought it was going to be the new guy she just hired and was surprised to see that it was the other ME. The episode was ok all in all, but i found the main case a little confusing and i didn't like how the episode was cut. normally, i can follow it when they have to crimes and they cut back and forth, but there was two crimes and then another storyline with the ME and that turned into another crime. Blah.

[TVFan]

CC Fan - I agree about the teams splitting up thing. The only real mention of it was when Catherine had to discipline Warrick, and she made some comment about running a tighter ship or something to that effect. It was a jab toward Grissom's liberal leadership. I just like it better when the team's a team. The new girl doesn't seem to add anything, so I would like to see her go back to the dayshift, and everyone else assume their positions.

I haven't watched CSI:Miami yet, so I didn't read your bit about it. I have heard that it was an Alexx-centric ep, which seems much deserved in my book.

ETA: I forgot to mention that I have ceased watching CSI:NY. It just doesn't do anything for me. I usually don't watch CSI:Miami either, but atleast that show has the comic value (intentional or not ). NY is the same as Vegas, except with less interesting characters (Hill Harper's ME is my one exception) and gray-er hues.

[TVFan]

I finally got around to watching Monday's CSI: Miami. After I picked myself back up off the floor and onto the couch and then continued to laugh for a good ten minutes at Horatio's "I'll be your memory" line and DC's whipping the sunglasses out and putting them on his face, I was able to watch the rest of the ep! (sorry for the really long sentence)

Anyway, I thought the main case was confusing as well CC Fan, and I was much more into the Alexx takes in a stray storyline. Alexx and Calleigh are my fav parts of the show, so any ep that focuses on one or both of them is good in my book. Oh and I like new-guy, but he was a little stiff in this ep. The motives behind both murders in the main case were really W E A K!!

[Ryebeach]

Here's a nice article about Paul Guilfoyle from CSI. I actually met him when he was filming a movie in the next town over from mine back in 1998. A very nice man.

Source: tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|92418|1|,00.html

New York and Miami have their own "CSI" teams now, but the original Las Vegas squad hasn't lost any steam.

One person exceptionally grateful for it -- apart from every CBS shareholder -- is Paul Guilfoyle, one of the movie world's busiest character actors before finding steady employment as Capt. Jim Brass on "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," the Thursday crime drama with an unflagging popularity that was reconfirmed by the airing of its 100th episode last month. More evidence is furnished by the Nielsen ratings, in which "CSI" remains a regular Top Five finisher.

Once the supervisor of the Vegas forensics team, Brass was transferred in the wake of a rookie's death. Now back in homicide, he still consults frequently with Gil Grissom (William Petersen), Catherine Willows (Marg Helgenberger) and the other detectives who manage to distill murder clues from probing unlikely people, places and items.
"We're always trying to show authenticity," the pleasantly low-key Guilfoyle says in considering the show's enormous success. "The CSI investigators find the evidence while the other detectives process it. When people start commenting on 'procedural drama' versus other kinds of drama, I don't really know what that means. Our show does have a lot of procedures involved, but to me, drama is drama."

Although his films range from "Air Force One" to "L.A. Confidential," the Boston-born Guilfoyle claims not to have felt stifled spending most of the past four years playing just one part. "It might be harder for the younger guys who don't have 70 movies or 100 plays under their belts like I have," he reasons. "I still manage to do a movie every summer. I try to stay available for that, because I enjoy doing different roles.

"The interesting thing about a long-term television role is that over time, I've tried to utilize the tools of change and relationship development whenever there's the chance for that. One of the reasons I try to stay under the radar publicitywise is so people can still receive and accept me in other parts."

Some entertainment Web sites erroneously list Guilfoyle as the son of another Paul Guilfoyle, also a character actor, whose credits included such classics as "The Grapes of Wrath" and "Mighty Joe Young." The "CSI" co-star allows that "it's a unique name, but that actor was not my father. I don't know how that got twisted around." He's also cited often as the son of the other Paul Guilfoyle's wife, Kathleen Mulqueen, who played the title character's grandmother on TV's "Dennis the Menace."

"Big fans of hers ask me how she's doing, and I hate to take that away from them," the actor says.

Still, the confusion has placed Guilfoyle in amusing situations. "When I was a young actor doing my very first play, I was told 40 people from my fan club had shown up. I was just 19 years old, and it was a very small theater, only about 99 seats. The other actors were going, 'You have a fan club?' As I normally do when things get so convoluted, I just said, 'Yeah.'

"So there were 40 people, all of them about 65 years old, who came in a bus to see Paul Guilfoyle. I went out and talked to them, and they were chagrined to not see the Paul Guilfoyle they expected. I had to break the news he had been dead for about 12 years then, but they said, 'We'll be your fan club now.'"

Guilfoyle has admirers among filmmakers, too. He's been called to action by such prominent directors as Steven Spielberg (for "Amistad"), Ron Howard ("Ransom"), Robert Redford ("Quiz Show"), Mike Nichols ("Primary Colors") and Sydney Pollack ("Random Hearts").

"I've had a lot of success working with established directors," Guilfoyle reflects. "They made movies when every actor was a character actor, even someone like Jack Nicholson when he made 'Five Easy Pieces.' If you get an A-list actor and have to give him a lot of money, you don't necessarily have to fill the ranks the same way, so I've been fortunate."

"CSI: Crime Scene Investigation" only became more prominent en route to the fifth season it's currently in. Spike TV regularly runs repeats from earlier years, and DVD sets are available on the Paramount Home Video label -- plus there's the spinoff factor that has given CBS two more hit shows, "CSI: Miami" on Mondays and "CSI: NY" on Wednesdays.

Guilfoyle recognizes the realities of expanding such a successful franchise: "People seem to have to choose which show they like the best, and I'm glad many of them still choose to look at the original. I think the people who make a show are what really add to it."

[TVFan]

LOVED the Sherlock Holmes storyline. I was completely drawn-in and fascinated by it. I thought it would have been better, though, if Greg's theory had been the correct one. It just seemed fitting to have a man like the victim kill himself and frame Watson.

The other storyline was interesting, but I'm not liking Catherine in the office and not in the field. I hope they put her back out with Warrick and Nick. I thought the jiggle man was cool, though.

Greg was cute (as usual) and new girl was no where to be seen. I still dislike the new boss. He just rubs me the wrong way (like he's supposed to, I guess).

[CC Fan]

CSI: Miami: This episode was just too confusing. I couldn't remember the different characters and it just wasn't all that interesting. I heard that theres gonna be another 90 minute episode soon. OY! Didn't they learn from the first time? I just hope that this episode doesn't involve a tidle wave, considering whats happened this past month in Thailand.

CSI: NY I'm really starting to like this show. I thought this past episode was very strong and kept me guessing. I liked that it turned out to be the little boy because I wasn't expecting it at all. At first I was worried because they had 3 different cases which is usually hard for me to follow, but I was surprised at how easy it was. I liked that one of the cases was stronger than the other and that the other two still had a good amount of screen time. BTW, doesn anyone else still watch this show or am I the only one?

CSI: I really liked it. I thought both cases were strong and I loved the Sherlock Holmes mystery. I also loved that Greg passed. He's sooo cute and he totally deserved it. I was really worried though, when Grissom caught that mistake. I was like.. NOOOO! He's not gonna pass. But I'm glad that he did, because it'd going to be interesting to watch him progress in the field. I agree that having Catherine in the office is kind of boring. I liked when her and Grissom were partners. They both had very different styles and it was fun to watch them work together and play off eachother.

[TVFan]

CSI: Original -

Okay episode for me. I thought the senior citizen murder was very far-fetched. Just can't imagine a telemarketer driving out to a potential client's house and then driving him to the ATM. I thought the WWII gun and ammo was an interesting twist, though.

The other storyline was very confusing for me. It kept jumping all over the map, and I found it hard to follow. I ended up getting bored, but I did see the final resolution. That witch doctor guy was very creepy, though. He reminded me of a character in the James Bond movie "Live and Let Die."

Overall, hohum.

[TVFan]

After about three weeks, we finally got a new CSI last night. We only had one case, there was no sign of the new girl (again), and there was personal stuff thrown in there too. My one gripe about the personal stuff on this show (and some of the other procedurals) is that it seems to come out of nowhere. It's like the writers are sitting around and all of a sudden decide to include some personal bits about a character. Sara had been struggling for a while, but she had been better lately. Plus, she had worked plenty of domestic abuse cases in the past. Why did she all of sudden decide to yell at Catherine (whom she usually gets along with fine) and to act subordinate with MeanBoss? Totally out of left field. The scene with her and Grissom at her apartment was well acted, but it just seemed very forced for me. I don't know, maybe CSI just isn't a character driven show for me. I tune in for the cases and the cases alone. I tend not to pay too much attention to the charcacters' personal lives, so when the writers decide to throw in a heavy personal story line, it just seems out of place IMO.

Other than the personal stuff, I thought the case was pretty interesting. Weird that someone who has never even hit a spouse would resort to beating her to death. I mean, the guy was weird (locked up food, phone disconnected) and an obvious control freak, but it just struck me as a little odd. I was glad to see Catherine back in the field. I've missed her recently. MeanBoss is just looking for a reason to fire Sara (and everyone else - except - Catherine for that matter).

[CC Fan]

so i totally agree, the whole thing with gil and sara was just like "what???" i'm really getting annoyed with it, as well as the show. this case was boring and im not understanding why they bothered to seperate the team when they find some reason to bring them back together.

[fish]

So um, am I the only person on this board still watching CSI: NY?

The show has improved a lot since the series premiere, and last night's episode was excellent. I thought that both plots were not as developed as I'd like them to be, but with the time constraint and all, I guess that's as far as they could go if they want to squeeze everything into an hour.

Human furniture - now that's something I've never heard of. Fetish really does come in all flavors.

The shipping yard case was confusing because there were so many workers and managers, and I had a hard time telling between them. The pancaked body? Double gross, but Dr. Hawkes actually coming to the scene with the spatula in hand? Totally priceless. The scene where Mac was chasing the killer in between all those crates was intense, and I like that Stella and Mac are really watching out for each other like real friends do. Gah, there are just way too many scenes in this episode that I want to capture in those little square goodness we call icons, but I don't have the time and obviously, I can't make screencaps.

It's too bad that I can't share the giggle with my mom over breakfast now that my grandmother is here and we're ordered to speak only Mandarin in the house... ah well, I'll live.

[Naj]

I watched it last night for the first time only because a former Xena actor had a part. I can't stand looking at smashed bodies and such, personally. That bondage thing was awful. Are there really people out there doing what they portrayed? Just awful. *shutters*


~Naj

[CC Fan]

I started watching it last night but then I fell asleep (not because it was boring, I was just really tired)... anyway, I tivod it though so i'll watch it tomorrow.

[Ryebeach]

Just found this bit of news over at thefutoncritic.com. It's quite a catch for CSI. Not that they needed any help with their ratings but this will certainly give them a boost.


C.S.I.: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION (CBS) - Feature helmer Quentin Tarantino ("Kill Bill") has signed on to write and direct the show's fifth-season finale, which is currently slated to air on Thursday, May 19. Tarantino reportedly is a huge fan of the series and a schedule opening coincided with the finale's production in early April. No details however were released about the episode. The news marks Tarantino's third TV directing gig, the others being a 1995 episode of "ER" and an installment of "Jimmy Kimmel Live" last year.

[TVFan]

Ryebeach - That's great news about Quentin Tarantino. I'm really interested to see how he writes a CSI episode. The directing will be interesting as well.

CC Fan - I did the same thing during Without A Trace last night! Not because it was boring, but because I was so flippin' tired! I have it TiVoed as well.

Anyway, for some reason, this episode really grossed me out in the beginning. I don't usually get grossed out b/c I just tell myself that it's all fake, but the dead guy in the woods with the missing face (I'm getting a little sick just writing about it now :lol: ) really made my stomach turn. Also, I follow sports, but not sports betting. I was sooo confused during the explanation that Warrick gave Catherine - to the point where it was distracting me. Speaking of Warrick and Catherine, interesting development with the dinner "date." I don't really get into the personal stuff on this show, but I have always thought that they would be cute together.

I thought the second storyline was very offensive. I'm not an over weight person, but if I were, I would have been offended. The way the detective acted when he took Grissom to the convention was very uncalled for. Plus, the camera angles and just the whole way it was treated at the pool scene just struck me as offensive. Maybe I'm just super sensitive to things like this, I don't know. I felt bad for the "killer," but I thought that whole thing was dealt with poorly as well. I was pretty shocked with the whole storyline, really.

Overall, I liked the sports betting storyline, but really disliked the "Hogs and Heffers Convention" (what a terrible name too) storyline.

[CC Fan]

I agree... I'm normal weight but it still offended me. as a teenager, I deal with insecurities on a daily basis, and to see a show like CSI that is so popular make fun of overweight people makes me think that perhaps we'll never get over the topic of weight.

[TVFan]

I thought last night's episode was pretty good. I liked the way they led us to believe that the brother's confession was coerced and not valid, but in the end he was in fact the guilty party. It was a nice twist and it made it different.

The flight attendant death kept me guessing as well. I couldn't figure out whether the hotel manager had committed multiple murders or just the two the episode focused on. If he didn't committ others, I wonder why. I didn't hear any mention of him in jail between the first murder and the most recent one.

I'm glad the last couple of eps have had Catherine out in the field again. Yay!