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Post by Trublu on Oct 10, 2009 10:03:54 GMT -5
VALENS HAS TIES TO A TEEN WHOSE 2004 MURDER IN A JUVENILE DETENTION CENTER IS BEING INVESTIGATED BY THE TEAM, ON "COLD CASE," SUNDAY, OCT. 11
Emmy Award Winner Bobby Cannavale ("Will & Grace," "Third Watch") Returns as Narcotics Cop Eddie Saccardo
Steven Culp ("JAG," "Desperate Housewives"), Adina Porter ("True Blood")
And Cress Williams ("Prison Break," "ER") Guest Star as Employees of the
Facility Where the Victim Was Killed
"Jurisprudence" - The team reopens the 2004 case of a teen who was wrongly sent to a juvenile detention center where he was killed before Valens could make good on his promise to get him released. Meanwhile, Lilly reconnects with her former love, Saccardo, on COLD CASE, Sunday, Oct. 11 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
SERIES REGULARS:
Lilly Rush........................................ Kathryn Morris
Scotty Valens....................................... Danny Pino
Lt. John Stillman...................................... John Finn
Nick Vera................................... Jeremy Ratchford
Will Jeffries.......................................... Thom Barry
Kat Miller.......................................... Tracie Thoms
RECURRING CAST :
Eddie Saccardo.................... Bobby Cannavale
GUEST CAST:
Alex Caceres
(2002, 2004)........................ Jerry Hernandez
Judge Harold "Harry"
Alvarez...................................... Miguel Perez
Marci Rich
(2004, 2009)..................... Becky Wahlstrom
Michael Rodgers (
2009)........................... Christopher H. Fisher
Michael Rodgers (2004) ....... James D'Kristian
Evan Price (2004, 2009)............... Steven Culp
Laticia Myers (2004, 2009) ........ Adina Porter
Ray-Ray (2004, 2009)............... James Earl III
Jimmy Clarke (2004, 2009)...... Cress Williams
Deputy Commissioner
Patrick Doherty................... Keith Szarabajka
Guard................................... Michael DiBacco
WRITTEN BY: Christopher Silber, one of the series' producers
DIRECTED BY: Holly Dale
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Post by Naj on Oct 11, 2009 19:32:04 GMT -5
Revised start times for tonight's CBS programs: 60 Minutes (7:42pm ET), Amazing Race (8:42pm ET), Three Rivers (9:42pm ET) and Cold Case (10:42pm ET) due to an NFL runover.
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 11, 2009 22:58:48 GMT -5
Thread is now unlocked!
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Post by killermiller on Oct 11, 2009 23:15:59 GMT -5
I want to start by saying that this episode was excellent! The case was great. Great story, great casting and everything. Though I'm sad to say my pookie Vera wasn't here.  Now on to to Miller's leaving. I knew that was gonna happen. When they showed the clip from last season with Stillman and the Police Commisioner on the season premire, I had the feeling that Miller, Vera and Jeffries may get in somehow, and when I read Tracie Thoms's blog saying that wasn't gonna be in some episodes this season, my feeling that it was gonna be her in particular. But when the Commisioner(Can remember the bastard's name) address Miller in Stillman's office, I knew she was in trouble. My curiousity is who let her go, Stillman or the Commisioner? And how will everyone else act next week? |
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Post by killermiller on Oct 11, 2009 23:32:35 GMT -5
Oh yeah. Lily & Saccardo. I can't forgot post about them. lol. Saccardo in boxers? ;D Seems like they've having their secret meeting for a while now. It's good to see Lily have her fun and they seem to actually care about each other. Wonder what Eddie's gonna do to try and help Lily. Anyways, it was good to see Eddie again.
Scotty. If the world was under an alien attack, he'd find a way to make it his problem. lol. But this was a good case and he was amazing in it. It shows that he's very compasionate but he also has a lot of regrets in his life.
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Post by Kassandra on Oct 11, 2009 23:38:16 GMT -5
I have to say I loved this episode  The Lilly/ Saccardo thing I love. (I do wish Lil' and Scotty would end up together though) I love how she is hungry Kat leaving I almost threw my remote across the room. I was SO angry!! Scotty was so compassionate in this episode I really like the way he acted. And lil' backing out on her dad for like the 5th time. They are really setting it up for the coming weeks episodes i hope I hate that Commissioner ERRGGG I want to rip his ungrateful head off his body!!!!!!! |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 11, 2009 23:51:56 GMT -5
Great episode all around. You knew Kat would be leaving at some point.. Tracie Thoms ever said so in her blog.... as for the Deputy Commissioner... he'll end up getting his at some point.... just a matter of time.
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Post by Kassandra on Oct 12, 2009 0:03:22 GMT -5
I know that they wouldnt put all of them together all season but she better be back throughout the season. Does anyone have a link to this blog she has?  |
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Post by eduardo on Oct 12, 2009 0:21:36 GMT -5
I just voted for OK. 1. You can see that CC now has a low budget. Sad 2. CC at 11 pm! It's too late! And they still complain about low ratings? As I said... I think there's a complot against CC (Check the season 7 ratings discussion)3. Simple case. Boring at first, then got exciting. Great twist but I knew all the way who was the killer (just with his face) 4. What was sending Lil thru the mail??? 5. Good message of how crime is a tragic thing & the system does not help us 6. They have a low budget but in the next weeks they're gonna solve a REALLY OLD OLD OLD case... what will be the explanation? Doherty won't be happy with the team working in an old case 7. Alex was really cool 8. I liked the murder scene 9. I hate Doherty  10.Miller is gone and Vera wasn't in this one but there was no explanation for this (Vera absent) 11.I was gonna give a good but Michael was the one who saw ALEX? it had to be Valens!
Maybe the writers hate me because I always thought Valens was gonna see Alex! It was logical and no! It was this kid ... Horrible |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 12, 2009 0:26:39 GMT -5
from what I udnerstand, Tracie Thoms will be gone for six episodes..... but it wasn't a shocker to me because she said right on her blog she would be gone for a month/six episodes, a couple of them will be....
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Post by Kassandra on Oct 12, 2009 0:35:52 GMT -5
Thats alright that she is only gone for 6 i mean atleast she isnt gone for the rest of the season |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 12, 2009 0:59:06 GMT -5
I will say for Stephen Culp... I could never even be on a show dealing with murder after what's he been through..truly a great actor.
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Post by madmax on Oct 12, 2009 1:08:25 GMT -5
well I gave it good, just because plot of the murder was OK and 'side plot' was excellent Miller - she's a junior detective in the squad, when Doherty said someone has to go I knew it's going to be her (not only because she wrote it on the blog, but because that's what Lieu in real life would do) Doherty - IAB (internal affairs) should do something about him, like check if he knewed about the judge, there should be an investigation about his involvment in the case; I just hope they (writers) will go in that direction Case itself was OK, as I said before; wasn't exciting with some twists; just a kid that got in trouble and the system wasn't perfect (I guess as a person that is involved with the system I know how screwed up it is,that rehab is not primary goal  ) so the plot itself was too much of a real life and that's not the reason I wach TV for; Lilly and Eddie - great! perfectly written! I love Lil' in regular t-shirt; her casual-ness is so sexy  Vera- wasn't in the episode and I didn't notice it till I read it here in one of the posts (not that he's not needed in CC) but no one mentioned him and no character said anything so I guess I just didn't miss him in this particular episode |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 12, 2009 2:09:51 GMT -5
If nothing, this episode is based on a true story in PA. Those judges are soon going on trial themselves, where they should be. How can we teach teens to respect the law when those sworn to uphold it are breaking it themselves.
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Post by eduardo on Oct 12, 2009 2:42:30 GMT -5
what was Lilly sending thru the mail?
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Post by thesillyk on Oct 12, 2009 9:50:59 GMT -5
I loved it! Great music, nice case.
But I hate Doherty. I REALLY DO. What a piece of poo!
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 12, 2009 9:53:36 GMT -5
I loved it! Great music, nice case. But I hate Doherty. I REALLY DO. What a piece of poo! I imagine Doherty is going to get his. Especially due to his habit of hanging out with people who are corrupt. You can only do that for so long before you get caught in the web as well. |
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Post by byrdman9802 on Oct 12, 2009 11:08:30 GMT -5
I voted good on this case myself. Great story, great characters (that Jimmy who taught woodshop was a cop on the second season of a former CBS crime drama I used to watch - "Close To Home" - anyone remember that?  , but the show as a while had so many personal things involved with it that it detracted a bit from the case. That corrupt bureau chief, Saccardo, Kat, Scotty and then the case. I did not think it was bad at all, I liked it, it was just a bit hard to follow in my opinion. Plus with the extra late start - that did not help. Ha!  But like I have said many times before, we need to take some time to enjoy this season, folks. We helped to make it happen, and it is up to us to get the most out of it. Oh, and Saccardo having that gun drawn on Lilly was not cool! Ha! I know he's undercover and all that - just looking out for Lilly, you know? A gentleman to the end I am. And I really liked the closing song on tonight's ep as well! And no Vera, Kat going away and an angry Stillman.....things are looking a little tough in Philly PD right now......stay tuned, boys and girls! |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 12, 2009 13:12:55 GMT -5
Better episode than the first two, although in some ways this episode did hit a little close to home. I am one who knows that 'Jurisprudence' can be a complete joke. Here where I live you can actually be tossed in jail, not given a trial until years later, and all for a traffic violation; meanwhile drunk drivers, and vehicular man slaughterers get to go free. (Oh they get their license taken away, but they should be the ones in jail.)
You could tell that this was a very Scotty centric case, which I didn't mind. I felt bad for him, because through out the episode he believed that had he been early, he could have 'saved' Alex (so to speak.) It wasn't until around the end that he realized that even if he was early, the judge would have still sent Alex to Havenherst (sp?) That's when he realized that there was nothing he could have done.
The ending song fit really well with the whole theme, and even though it's not my type of music, I may wind up adding it to my Rhapsody playlist.
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Post by dizzysparkle on Oct 12, 2009 14:32:09 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this episode, I liked all the different threads they explained/set up. Miller leaving was a bit of a shocker none the less!
Thought the Lilly and Eddie scenes were done really well, they seem very sweet together. A question: what is it that Lilly says after Saccardo asks where Moe is now? I just can't catch it and I'm not sure what she means...
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) so the plot itself was too much of a real life and that's not the reason I wach TV for;
, but the show as a while had so many personal things involved with it that it detracted a bit from the case. That corrupt bureau chief, Saccardo, Kat, Scotty and then the case.
