Ep. 4.09 Lonely Hearts

[TVFan]

LILLY AND THE TEAM DELVE INTO THE WORLD OF A MODERN DAY LONELY HEARTS CLUB WHEN A HANDSOME MAN COMMITS SUICIDE WHILE WATCHING A TAPE OF AN UNATTRACTIVE WOMAN WHOSE MURDER WENT COLD IN 1989, ON "COLD CASE," SUNDAY, NOV. 19

John Peters directed the episode that was written by Liz W. Garcia.

Lilly Rush: Kathryn Morris
Scotty Valens: Danny Pino
LT. John Stillman: John Finn
Nick Vera: Jeremy Ratchford
Will Jeffries: Thom Barry
Kat Miller: Tracie Thoms
Martha Puck: Emily Nelson
Camera Girl (1989): the one who's name we shall not say Christine Smith
Stephanie Levine (2006): Cindy Ambuehl
Stephanie Levine (1989): Cristina Ann Williamson
Ramon Delgado (1989/2006): Bruno Campos
Andre: Oren Williams
Eugenia (1989/2006): Mary-Pat Green
Reverend Love (2006): Mark Beltzman
Reverend Love (1989): Richard Harter
Buella Martin (1989): Jennifer Manley
Cherry "On Top" Washington: Ralph Cole Jr.
Cherry Lesure: (1989) Jermaine Cheeseborough

[eurache]

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[Naj]

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I'll talk more tomorrow about the ep. I think it was a great episode and tragic. The substory with the detectives and love theme was hilarious. They got every detective in on it. Very creative from Liz.

[The Reverend Bizarre]

*weeps*

The only night I watch TV and CBS decides to act up, and not air. Then come to find out it was probaly an excellent show.

*hopes that they re-air this one when the inevitable repeats come on.*

[longislanditalian2]

We finally got more of Lilly in this episode, I like the ending when Lilly is walking down the street smiling. I personally think she is slowly realizing that happiness can be found in her own heart not just in love. When Martha was talking about the park it was referenced a lot in this episode especially at the end. A very weak motive for Eugine but was it more like Martha wanted to die but didn't want to do it herself.

At last finally Lilly and Scotty doing an intterogation, Eugine had mentioned stuff about being alone some of it coinsided with Lilly how she felt inside maybe was reflecting. But I didn't like when she said to her " You and I might just be from different worlds" very untrue. Vera and the kid priceless and very Vera like, especially walking outside with a coat and no pants.


Oh yeah I loved the shirt Lilly was wearing during the interrogation, I must find it

I think I saw a combination of both S1 and S2 in Lilly in this episode.

Does anyone know anything about what the bubbles were sussposed to represent

[michelle]

I had to choose "hated it" for this ep. I didn't really hate it, not every aspect, but I didn't think it was even as good as OK, so I had to use that option.

I like the ending when Lilly is walking down the street smiling.

That moment also struck me. I liked it very much. It wasn't a look we see on Lilly often and it somehow conveyed an inner happiness and satisfaction, rather than a reaction to external factors.

For the most part though, the case this ep struck me as being nearly a parody. I liked the idea it started out with but then it went so far beyond likely reality that it became ridiculous.

The non-case aspects of this ep were good. I liked Vera a lot, and really enjoyed the scene with Lil, Jeffries, and the transvestite.

[myril]

longislanditalian2 said:

Does anyone know anything about what the bubbles were sussposed to represent

(soap) bubbles = dreams, illusions, childish happiness, being unrealistic - sorry, sounds probably very unromantic. Don't get me wrong, I love soap bubbles in a way (ever heard of Pic, the clown it's amazing to watch what he is doing with bubbles)

Liked this episode in some ways, but not sure what mark I'm going to give here. I'm ambivalent, that they had a lot of funny scenes in it. The main story line was basically tragic , but the hilarious scenes with main cast were distracting. I loved these scenes and they were somehow in context, but it created a certain funny atmosphere, so the whole episode had comedy touch.

Agree with michelle, even the case could give you the impression of a parody. Though sometimes real life is like a parody, you can only wonder what people actually do at times. And what people do out of love, for love and to avoid being alone for the rest of their lives especially. Know some people working in the business of dating services and it's baffling what you can encounter there. Had a hunch where the story was going the very moment they saw the video tape of Martha the first time. It couldn't be just a story about a guy fleecing lonely women, that would have been too simple.

On the other hand it was kinda fitting to tell the story this way, to exaggerate stuff. It's what all these stupid tv shows, talk shows do all day. Or like you can read it in some of these awful crappy romantic books (hehe, and Vera was devouring the book, wasn't he). Guess that's why they produced the ep this way. It was all about illusions, of living in a soap bubble world so to speak.

I'm not sure if they get it across, guess a lot of people might have missed the subtlety. Trying to make a skit to mimic the paradoy media likes to make of romance and love. And how people take the parody as the real thing. The whole ep reminded me a little of the one with the context of Rocky Horror Picture Show. I'm not sure though, if they really had that intention to parody a parody. If so, well, great idea, but unfortunately they didn't quite hit it IMO.

[longislanditalian2]

One more thing about the bubbles, it went past as Lilly was walking down the street smiling. Does this mean anything? Lilly looked happy not sad , maybe she's gotten over her broken heart and starting to enjoy life one moment at a time . She was taking in everything around her .

[TVFan]

I gave this one a good. The little moments in this one saved it from getting an OK. The problem with this episode was the actual case. Not the path it took (which I thought was interesting and kept me on my toes), but the over-the-top presentation of the subject matter. I got that these women were deperate, but how desperate can one person be?? Not to mention, I wasn't sure whether the show was making fun of these women or trying to bring an understanding to what they go through. And do all "ugly women" go through this heartbreak? And are they the only ones? The answer to both questions is no obviously, but you would think it was the case just by watching this episode. The story fell into too many stereotypes and cliched traps for me to fully enjoy it. I just kept wondering if it was supposed to be as ridiculous as it came across. Maybe it worked better on paper.

Case problems aside, the rest of the episode was rather excellent. I'll ditto the setiment about the ending shot with Lilly -- LOVED IT!! It was so carefree and happy. I think working the case got Lilly thinking about how sad these women are and how she needs to carve out her own little piece of happiness on this earth before she can share it with anyone else. I also loved all of Vera's scenes. He had some great lines. I was laughing out loud at times. Loved Lilly's interrogation with the murderer (Eugena?). Great stuff as usual. If Eugena only knew how tough Lil has it! So, as I said above, the little moments saved this episode for me.

[Naj]

I liked the ep. The story was serious and the side story was funny to watch the detectives respond to love. I loved Lilly walking at the end but I think it would have been comical to show Lilly riding a horse like the Heart sister does in the video. I just couldn't get that one out of my head. Lots of funny stuff: Lilly and Kat talking and Stillman giving them odd looks. I thought it would have been even funnier to send Vera/Jeffries to the chapel. I loved Martha and was surprised how the story turned with her killing the women. I enjoyed it. It was something different. I gave it an excellent.

[riche]

Can't say I was particularly drawn into the story. The show was all about the little comedy moments as LII2 said, despite the tragic events. Nice to have some lighter moments. Not sure I understood why Stillman sent Valens and Vera to the chapel though, it did give them a comic set up I guess.

Vera's look when he saw the ghost bride at the end was priceless. The little sideways look: "does anyone else see her?"

There were definitely some hits on Lil regarding poor choices of men. Of course the "different planet" comment had us all saying "if only you knew what our Lil has gone through." Stephanie's attitude suggested she wasn't any luckier in love despite her good looks (she was no Lilly though ). I presume this was an attempt to even things a little.

That Vera and the kid storyline is going to run and run, and it isn't going to go well for Vera

[riche]

naj said:

I thought it would have been even funnier to send Vera/Jeffries to the chapel.

Damn! Wish I'd thought of that. Can you imagine the look they'd have given each other before 'correcting' the guy?

[Swoznick]

Ok - time for me to jump in here.... My DVR messed up last night due to the delay in the previous programming... So I've only seen part of the episode. In the first setup scenes where we see Martha dead on the pavement - did anybody see the rat? HHHHHmmmm - something rotten there? Pretty bad when the rat picks up something to eat - and does'nt stay to forage for more... Made me wonder there - but hey, you guys taught me to look for little things..

I thought the comedy was priceless.. Everybody had some comebacks to share.. Vera reading those novels - well the content may be sorely lacking in his life... afterall - isn't that why he got an apartment? The scenes with Stillman where Lilly and Kat were laying out the pattern of purchases.. Especially the beauty treatments and the matter of fact way they were listing them out... Stillman got uncomfortable and away quickly.. The looks and smiles that Lilly and Kat exchanged - well I think maybe Lilly is not outnumbered on the guys at work theme anymore. What do you think - will these two end up as buddies - at least a little?
When they were reading the diary and Vera shot out about the first date lines.. That is so realistic when standing in the midst of a bunch of street hard cops. The humor is either really dry to a bit coarse depending on who's there. One has to think on their feet and be ready to zing back if you're gonna walk in that kind of group. Yeah girls!!!! I was laughing..

I'll have to go back and look - did we have the black leather jacket again Boxman? Come to think of it, that scarf is showing up quite a bit too..

I'm gonna wait to vote until I see the whole thing.

[longislanditalian2]

It be funnier if Lilly and Scotty were at the chapel , I can just see the look on her face. Stillman kinda of spoke lower around Lilly when he said he was sending Vera and Scotty do you thnik he knows about the breakup and her broken heart


On a serious note, I think Kat and Lilly both share something in common about being single. I think they can relate to each other and I think Lilly notices as well.

[irishkale]

LOL -- Check out what Martha was looking at in the Freezer section of the grocery store:

www.kmrocks.com/photo/thruster_pops.jpg

And do I need to talk about the placement of the cherries here?:

www.kmrocks.com/photo/thruster_pops_crop.jpg



(thanks for Boxman for alerting me to this )



--I also posted a possible "goof" in the fanart section here.

[myril]

Irishkale LOL They missed that little detail, tsetse.

LII Think it was priceless the way it was, with Scotty and Vera, the 2 "brothers". Made a nice scene. Not to mention, it was even better seeing the little moment in the endmontage.

swoznick Yup, I noticed the rat, didn't give it much thought, but the idea of something rotten sounds plausible, foreshadowing Martha was not just a victim. A weird realism considering that the whole episode had not a very realistic style, so it makes you wonder, why they put that rat there.

Can't imagine they had the intention to make fun of these women, but yeah, accidentally they migh have done. Makes me so ambivalent about this episode. On the other hand, it's really not like the other women were looking good either, just were more the looker types. The stupid girl at the dating service, oh crap, what a cliche of a blonde (could have kicked her for being so arrogant to Martha, but well, some people are like that) And Martha's roommate? Dating guys for their money - oh come on, another cliche and not better than Martha. Seeing her in the endmontage looking at herself in the mirror was so fitting, she was a narcist. At least Martha had a heart to give. All in all we had a lot of lonely people in this ep. The only one enjoying life and eventuall finding some happiness was the transvestite.

Liked much the way, Lilly and Kat worked together in this ep. They're working women in a man's world (it still is IMO) and both seem to be single, so some things to share. As much as I was for the "lonely woman detective" concept, this devolopment is doing this show something good.

[longislanditalian2]

Something I had noticed, when Vera says something among the lines of" First Dates are nothing", look at the look on Lilly's face.

I think this murder case taught Lilly a huge lesson about love and made her realize what is important , that all of these women were lonely like her and wanted to find happiness with a man, I think Lilly then realized that happiness can be felt within one's self instead of love. Lilly knows that finding happiness in herself will make her a stronger person all around


The look on her face when Eugenia talks about loneilness, Lilly was thinking that's me for everything except for the part about being overweight.


Maybe Lilly and Kat with become friends, they seem to get along well

[coldcasegirl]

I'm a little late..lol, but anyways...I thought this episode was one of the most mindbending ones we have seen! I like the twist, but it was pretty creepy and really sad. And then Ramon ended up loving martha and missing her in the end, so I thought that was funny that he was sad esp. after he did all of those mean things to those women!
But Lilly was soooo georgeous in this episode! I don't know why, but she just seemed to "stand out" more in this episode! Her smile ;D at the end was so radiant and made me smile!
Vera was absolutely hilarious!, BUT kicking andre's ball was a little mean! But, nevertheless, he made me laugh!
This episode overall, was pretty good, some of the music was alright too!
Can't wait til "Forever Blue!", but 2 WEEKS!....ahhh, guess I got my tapes! lol

~CCG ;D

[Pixie]

OK there are a few things i don't understand...

- Why is it Vera who "sees" the hit 'n' run bride in the end, I don't see the connection

-Why does Stillman "see" Ramon in the end?

By the way: it was very hilarious that the transvestite got married at the end ;D

[kadoom]

pixie said:

- Why is it Vera who "sees" the hit 'n' run bride in the end, I don't see the connection
-Why does Stillman "see" Ramon in the end?

I thought it was Vera because he read that romance novel and thus gained an insight into the brides' dreams, how they had all those romantic fantasies in their heads, and Stillman because he said that it doesn't matter how they feel about the victim, they close that case and at the same time the murders of the brides (he said it about Martha, but the same applies to Ramon).