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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 30, 2009 15:23:45 GMT -5
I loved it when he passed her the plate and told her to eat, the girl really does need to eat. That's besides the point, I do like the quietness that the two shared.
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Post by alexlogan on Mar 30, 2009 16:32:16 GMT -5
Thanks so much for letting me know who the killer was. The NCAA ran over I DVRed it and had no idea who or why or what happened. I love this forum!!
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Post by leni810 on Mar 30, 2009 17:00:54 GMT -5
Oh, yeah! She needs to eat...! hehe!!
Even if she did have put on some weight and it's obvious. She's back to some normal.
hmm..Nothing too special for the episode. I voted for OK.
The case has many similarities with the "Colors" and also the person and her motive to come to the police is similar to the woman in the very first episode.
At first I thought that the guy with the sheep was the murderer, a murder on the land for the land.
Nice choice of the song matching the plot.
As for Lil and her dad, it was nice to see them in normal dinner, chat and the last with the chess. It's good for Lil and something stable finally.
And I was right about not showing again any date reffering to Lilly... No flashbacks and no dates. Let's see with the rest in the final eps...
About this "negro theme" for the victim, I would say that the guy may actually look white, but his facial characteristics, the shape of his face -it had very intense angles- and the colour of his eyes were kind of unlikely for a person with black origins. He couldn't look exactly like his mother. His black father's genes are more "powerful" than his white mother's.
If you remember in Colors the woman had similarities to a black woman even she could pass for white.
This man was so unlikely to come from a black family as unlikely is for KM to come from one (and not reffering to her complexion)...
I agree about the glasses in the room...
Anyway these are details...
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 30, 2009 17:31:07 GMT -5
@leni- In the press release we were supposed to see a flashback but I think that was cut, so at the end we just saw them in the past.
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Post by leni810 on Mar 30, 2009 17:42:34 GMT -5
This was a shame. It would be interesting to see their past a little.
(But I still doubt about the dates... ;D )
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Post by Electrophile on Mar 30, 2009 17:53:22 GMT -5
About this "negro theme" for the victim, I would say that the guy may actually look white, but his facial characteristics, the shape of his face -it had very intense angles- and the colour of his eyes were kind of unlikely for a person with black origins. He couldn't look exactly like his mother. His black father's genes are more "powerful" than his white mother's. If you remember in Colors the woman had similarities to a black woman even she could pass for white. This man was so unlikely to come from a black family as unlikely is for KM to come from one (and not reffering to her complexion)... Just an FYI, the term "negro" is really, really outdated. You shouldn't use it. I'm also sensing some confusion in how someone who comes from a light-skinned black mother and a dark-skinned black father can come out looking light-skinned enough to pass for white. A couple of you have said it's not possible, or it's not accurate.....when in actuality it absolutely is. While the actor who played Julian is white, the character of Julian is not white, he is African-American. However because his mother is Creole and therefore very light-skinned, he took more after her than his father. We see that in the family picture. His sister Regina favored their father more. Also, I've seen African-Americans with all varying eye colors -- from black, to brown, to green and even blue. It depends what is in your lineage, ethnically. |
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 31, 2009 3:51:26 GMT -5
electrophile is right. A lot of Blacks Caribbean here have blue eyes: dark blue and light blue. So it has nothing to do.
This subject is special to me since I'm a "mestizo"(don't know how to say it in English) My dad is Black and my mother is white so yeah: It's possible that that could happen
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Post by alexlogan on Mar 31, 2009 8:31:51 GMT -5
ok, nice to feel welcomed...
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 31, 2009 8:37:59 GMT -5
I already think that Lilly and her father have this really special relationship, but she now know's that he didn't abadoned her; but loved her all these years.
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Post by smallbarbie on Mar 31, 2009 11:32:51 GMT -5
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Mar 31, 2009 11:58:49 GMT -5
I really don't notice her hair, it's the storylines that i pay more attention to; but that's just me
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Post by eduardodelroice on Mar 31, 2009 12:08:30 GMT -5
I don't pay too much attention to her hair but I liked her hair in S3
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Post by Trublu on Mar 31, 2009 12:48:46 GMT -5
ok, nice to feel welcomed... Hi Alex, Welcome to the board.  We did not specifically welcome you here because this is an episode discussion thread; if you'd like to introduce yourself, this thread would be a better place. |
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Post by Trublu on Mar 31, 2009 12:51:11 GMT -5
I think Lilly's hair is actually a very important part of her characterization. In the earlier seasons, it was a big deal that she never let her hair down; in fact, the first time that it happened was for Kite. You're right smallbarbie, her hair has quite an effect on her character. electrophile is right. A lot of Blacks Caribbean here have blue eyes: dark blue and light blue. So it has nothing to do. This subject is special to me since I'm a "mestizo"(don't know how to say it in English) My dad is Black and my mother is white so yeah: It's possible that that could happen The term is the same for us as well; we adopted it as one of the "foreign english" words in our vocabulary. |
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Post by leni810 on Mar 31, 2009 13:47:29 GMT -5
Just an FYI, the term "negro" is really, really outdated. You shouldn't use it. At first, I'm sorry for the use of the word "negro". I didn't know. I'd just seen the ep and the word remained in my memory. We have here also a similar word. It hasn't any more meaning, just "black people". So it happened...  I was doubtful more because of the analogies, the shape, the angles of his face, than his skin colour. But you are right. Plus, who couldn't say actually that his father wasn't also from black and white origin so his boy has even more chances to look like a white guy? As for the hair, me I don't like Morris' hair up, at all, in the series, this last two years. It doesn't compliment her ears and it makes her angles more intense. The worst was last year but even now I'd prefer it down just like in s3 and s4. You are right LII2. They began to put the hair as part her character but finally it ended up to be a huge subject of discussion about the series..!It was hard to keep it in a long lived series where the actress grows up or at some moment you want a something new on screen.In season 3, Lil let her hair down without any particular reason. |
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Post by smallbarbie on Apr 1, 2009 4:20:09 GMT -5
her hair was the best at season 4 and 5, long, blonde hair and Kathy looked amazing and so sweet, like cute, little and innocence girl ;***, now her hair are OK but only OK, I saw on YT CC spoilers and here her up hair look good, very good but in CC her hair look bad and it is characterization or lights ;/
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Post by zoé on Apr 1, 2009 7:18:06 GMT -5
It was an alright episode. What I enjoyed the most were the family scenes... Lilly and her father and the reunion of Julian families in the end. I wonder how the wife would have reacted if she had met Julian's family at that time... I rated it OK. The story was interesting, but the "black who looks like a white" thing was already used in 3x05 Colors: there's nothing original. Actually, I thought the episode turned out more interesting with the revelation that he was black. It reminded me also of The Letter, where Sadie (who could "pass") refused to abandon her little girl because she couldn't "pass". I liked the scene between Lilly and her father at the restaurant, and also the final flashback playing chess: it's only a very brief moment, but I loved how little Lilly smiles to her father after her move. It was very sweet! A random nitpick: the chess configuration is odd, it is very unlikely that the white queen that Lilly moves would be on the black case and the king on the white one... Thanks so much for letting me know who the killer was. The NCAA ran over I DVRed it and had no idea who or why or what happened. I love this forum!! The killer was George, the black guy he knew from the military. electrophile is right. A lot of Blacks Caribbean here have blue eyes: dark blue and light blue. So it has nothing to do. This subject is special to me since I'm a "mestizo"(don't know how to say it in English) My dad is Black and my mother is white so yeah: It's possible that that could happen In French, we say métisse  I come from a large and very "mixed" family, and we have all kinds of different results thanks to Ms. Genetics, so that doesn't surprise me neither. |
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Post by eduardodelroice on Apr 1, 2009 7:42:10 GMT -5
zoé... It's always so good to see you in here I've stated that yeah: It does not happen all the time but It happens. I don't think Caroline(Julian's wife) would have had a negative reaction since she stated that all she wanted was to meet his family but who knows... 1950's |
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Post by zoé on Apr 2, 2009 8:53:21 GMT -5
zoé... It's always so good to see you in here I've stated that yeah: It does not happen all the time but It happens. I don't think Caroline(Julian's wife) would have had a negative reaction since she stated that all she wanted was to meet his family but who knows... 1950's I agree with you she seemed genuine but back in the 50's and with the social pressure and all, you'll never know... Just how the people reacted when Julian's sister went to the all-white office gave me the chills |
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Post by eduardodelroice on Apr 2, 2009 9:02:03 GMT -5
zoé... It's always so good to see you in here I've stated that yeah: It does not happen all the time but It happens. I don't think Caroline(Julian's wife) would have had a negative reaction since she stated that all she wanted was to meet his family but who knows... 1950's I agree with you she seemed genuine but back in the 50's and with the social pressure and all, you'll never know... Just how the people reacted when Julian's sister went to the all-white office gave me the chills Oh yeah: They looked at her as if she were from Saturn |
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