Scotty&Lilly

[babyv16]

I thought the hug was adorable. *sighs* more of a "I'm glad you're okay" hug, though. They had some great chemistry in this ep. I hope they build an even stronger friendship than they already have.

[lsr]

Hi again!!

Ok where are all my shipper friends?? Did everyone see the shippery-goodness in tonight's ep?? Man, I was loving the whole thing about them questioning why Scotty was in Lilly's apartment.. 'in the morning'. hee ....It's almost like you can hear the writer's when they have a character ask another character a question like that. Like it's spelling out what they are trying to imply. SO AWESOME! Anyway, I also love how Scotty is taking it all very personally. He doesn't like that they are trying to cheapen what he and Lilly have - even if he believes (right now!) that it is just platonic. We know better And he'll come to realize that soon enough! ;D
I'm so looking forward to November sweeps months. I predict a pretty deep Scotty/Lilly conversation by then.

[celina4]

''A pretty deep Scotty/Lilly conversation''... Sounds pretty intersting to me!

[lsr]

celina4 said:

''A pretty deep Scotty/Lilly conversation''... Sounds pretty intersting to me!

lol. Well I don't think we'll get to anything quite as open as I would love to see such as an admission of feelings or anything like that just yet BUT I seriously think they will have an ... interesting talk a la the premiere because Lilly's near-death really affected Scotty and we haven't yet seen him acknowledge it.
I have another prediction (are you ready? hehe) I think this "talk" will all come about through a Lilly breakdown of some kind. She's obviously still struggling with things so I think Scotty will find her crying or something sometime. Either that or in Nov. sweeps there'll be some other 'scary' moment where Scotty will think Lilly is in danger and good things will happen afterward out of his fear of losing her for a second time. squeeee.. I can't wait! ;D

[scillylove]

lsr said:

celina4 said:

''A pretty deep Scotty/Lilly conversation''... Sounds pretty intersting to me!

lol. Well I don't think we'll get to anything quite as open as I would love to see such as an admission of feelings or anything like that just yet BUT I seriously think they will have an ... interesting talk a la the premiere because Lilly's near-death really affected Scotty and we haven't yet seen him acknowledge it.
I have another prediction (are you ready? hehe) I think this "talk" will all come about through a Lilly breakdown of some kind. She's obviously still struggling with things so I think Scotty will find her crying or something sometime. Either that or in Nov. sweeps there'll be some other 'scary' moment where Scotty will think Lilly is in danger and good things will happen afterward out of his fear of losing her for a second time. squeeee.. I can't wait! ;D

As much as I would love to see that, I honestly don't have that much faith in the writers to do it. But I agree, they do need to acknowledge it, and a talk would be a perfect way to do it.

[lsr]

I know what you mean. The writer's are tricky but both the premiere and the second episode gave me more hope as to where they could be going with the storyline. Lilly and Scotty's relationship has been brought up more than once and we haven't even hit episode 3! That's more than there was for a long time in past seasons. However, I have to admit, if we do get a 'talk' as I think we will, I'm not convinced it will truly get anywhere... THIS season that is. Or perhaps not until finale time. I truly think it'll go: Lilly will be upset one evening. Scotty will comfort her and end up telling her that he was scared when she was in the hospital. They will share a look and then someone will interrupt... or... at least, it won't go any further for the moment. Still, though... I'll take it!!! I'm willing to wait for Lilly and Scotty as long as they are headed in that direction.

[littlelaura1992]

lsr said:

They will share a look and then someone will interrupt... or... at least, it won't go any further for the moment.

Haha! It Will Probably Be Vera! Lmao! ;D Oh He's Just So Funny! Then He Could Be Like 'What's Going On Here?
Tht Would Be Rather Amusing!
Oh...LII2...I LOVE Your Sig!! It's So Cool And It Really Captures The Glamour Of The Emmy's! (Oohh Get Me Lol
Anyways...I Just Cnt Believe The Chemistry That They Had On Screen In Thrill Kill!! I Was Giggling Like An Idiot All The Way Through It!! Esp, when she thanked him for being there and [glow=red,2,300]THE HUG!![/glow] I Think Every LS Shipper Was So Happy!
Anyways...I Also Think There Will Be Some Emotional Breakdown. Lilly Can't Keep Avoiding It Forever. I'm Looking Frwrd To The Counciling! Tht Should Be Entertaining!!
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[jsmith7288]

Well, unfortunately i have some bad news!!! I was on youtube this afternoon and saw a recent interview about the upcoming season and, being a lilly/scotty shipper, it wont happen this season. In an interview with Danny Pino, he describes to the journalists that Valens will fall in love with an ADA. He did not say if it was ADA Thomas but im sure it will be. I know she is coming back in episode 6, and in season 4, they had some chemistry, whether people saw it or not. He claims the relationship is not just a fling, so this could be bad news for us shippers. However, i do feel lilly and scotty will be together, probably in the last season of cold case, whenever that may be. Too bad, i was really wanting lilly/scotty together but scoty and this ADA might be interesting as well. Guess we'll have to wait and see. I know i put this post on the scotty/lilly thread, but did not know where else to post.

[lsr]

No it's okay for posting that here. Thanks for the info btw!

It does certainly suck but I can't say as I'm surprised that it's not going to be this season. On the other hand, this story line could be good for us in the long run. Let me elaborate here; with MOST of the other couples I've 'shipped, it takes something to push the characters into revealing truths that they didn't mean to reveal. For example; the story line could go as follows: Scotty will get into a relationship with the ADA (whom btw I can't stand so I'm going to be squirming whenever she's on! lol) and he will think he loves her. Eventually she will end up breaking it off with him for reasons that are beyond Scotty's control (ie his true feelings or at least, his connection to his work and <ahem> Lilly) I don't think he even realizes it yet though so he'll deny it all the way but ADALady knows better and could possibly subtly suggest it to him. That will get the wheels turning in Scotty's brain. Meanwhile, Lilly - whom is farrrrrrrrrrrrrr from letting anyone close to her - will find herself a little jealous but she doesn't know why...hmmmm. Eventually, by the end of the year come finale time after all this comes to a boiling point they could have that scene I was discussing earlier about Scotty confessing that he was scared when she almost died. It will have taken a year and a whole relationship to get him here but he finally might be starting to understand what Lil means to him. As well, Lilly who is attending these therapy sessions may be coming to a few realizations herself. Not perhaps all out shippiness but headed in the right direction. I'm sure they'll leave it off somewhere around there perhaps setting up for the next season.

I know it will take a while but I believe they will get there eventually and it would be incredibly mean to continually tease with nothing to show for it in the end so basically what I'm saying is: patience is a virtue.

[littlelaura1992]

I like that suggestion lsr!!
It sounds good to me! I don't mind waiting as long as we see them together
If it happens that way then season 6 will probably begin with A LOT of awkwardness. Oh well...that coul,d be funny though

[lsr]

Well, if I was worried before...I'm not at all now.

Having just seen the episode last night where Scotty and the ADA lady "got together". I am definitely not concerned that she's the love of his life or anything like that. That spot has already been claimed by Lilly (he just doesn't know it yet ). I was not feeling any chemistry in the scene in the office when he kissed her as I believe you were supposed to. In fact, it all seemed so contrived. I have a feeling the writer's have a plan for what they want to happen with Scotty (and possibly the S&L storyline) come Feb sweeps and toward the end of this year but in order for it to work they needed to have Scotty have some sort of personal issue and as a result they threw him into this mish-mash of a relationship with ADALady that clearly has no substance to it.

I am still very interested in seeing S&L develop as I KNOW they will... just in a very verrrrrrry slow manner.

[scillylove]

lsr said:

I was not feeling any chemistry in the scene in the office when he kissed her as I believe you were supposed to. In fact, it all seemed so contrived.

Exactly. It's not just because I don't like Thomas or because I want Lilly and Scotty together. I'm capable of acknowledging chemistry regardless, and here there just wasn't any.

But I don't know...TPTB said that LS was never going to happen, didn't they? I know that people can change their minds and have on shows in the past, but I just don't know if they'll do it here. Plus, CC doesn't seem like the 'stunt' kind of show, and I feel like it would be a stunt to do it during sweeps. I know, they got Lilly shot at the end of last season and had her shoot George in the s2 finale (which, btw, I just got to watch again on Friday, since there's a station here that's rerunning all the eps, and it was even more fabulous than the first time I watched it), but I don't think that's the same thing. When you get your main characters together there's a certain "cheese factor" to deal with. On a crime show, a shootout isn't that much of a stretch. But getting Lilly and Scotty together might seem odd to the viewers, especially since Lilly's commitment issues are a staple in her character.

I know I don't sound like an LS shipper here, but I swear I am, I just call it like I see it.

[missfrench]

I completely agree with you, I don't understand what Scotty gets involved with Thomas, she's not made for him. He may go with her because he feels lost because of the accusations which are against him. But he again falls in his bad habits, he takes the easy way, he does not try to resolve his problms, he prefers to escape them The storyline between Thomas and Scotty reminds me of the story line between Christina and Scotty, don't you?

For the Hug, I was so happy, like every shipper I think ;D Sice the time, I was waiting for such a moment

[Naj]

I personally don't wish to see Scotty with ADA. I liked it when there was just tension between them. That could go a long way!!!!


lsr,

I didn't see any chemistry between Scotty's love scene with the ADA either.

[lsr]

scillylove said:

Exactly. It's not just because I don't like Thomas or because I want Lilly and Scotty together. I'm capable of acknowledging chemistry regardless, and here there just wasn't any.

Yes, exactly. As much as I do want Lilly & Scotty to get together one day... I would be able to admit it if I saw chemistry with another character and with Thomas, it just simply was not there. I'm not sure if it's the chemistry between the actors or the way they wrote the characters but there was absolutely no heat whatsoever.

But I don't know...TPTB said that LS was never going to happen, didn't they? I know that people can change their minds and have on shows in the past, but I just don't know if they'll do it here. Plus, CC doesn't seem like the 'stunt' kind of show, and I feel like it would be a stunt to do it during sweeps. I know, they got Lilly shot at the end of last season and had her shoot George in the s2 finale (which, btw, I just got to watch again on Friday, since there's a station here that's rerunning all the eps, and it was even more fabulous than the first time I watched it), but I don't think that's the same thing. When you get your main characters together there's a certain "cheese factor" to deal with. On a crime show, a shootout isn't that much of a stretch. But getting Lilly and Scotty together might seem odd to the viewers, especially since Lilly's commitment issues are a staple in her character.

I completely understand what you're saying, scillylove. I agree that CC is not AS stunt oriented as other shows but having said that... it is still a network show. If they decide they need ratings, they will (and I speak from experience here lol) pull out all the stops if need be. In fact, I think it's pretty interesting (in that it was the FINALE) that they had all those shippery S&L moments last year. If they weren't fishing for ratings they could have left all of the S&L stuff out and just could have had Lilly be shot and in trouble. The fact that they chose to show Scotty go to Lilly's house and have Scotty be the one that was pacing up and down in the corridor while she was in surgery means something in my mind.

As well, don't ever believe what the creator's/writer's say. "It's never going to happen" does not mean it's never going to happen... it means "we're going to tease you until the very last breaking point before we either end the show or have a threatening of cancellation" lol. I only need to say two words here to back up my argument: Mulder & Scully.

Now having said all THAT.. I do agree scillylove that it may not happen in a clear cut way as you would get with other shows. I have a feeling if they do anything it will be in the very last few episodes before the show ends and even then it will be subtle.

But who knows.. I may be wrong on all counts. We'll just have to wait and see..

[longislanditalian2]

I still think the two will end up together, I think Scotty is so perfect for Lilly. He understands her.

[coldboneslove398]

I hope they end up together ....maybe drop us hints every now and then, but don't show the actual relationship moments? For example, look at "CSI"...they dropped hints of the GSR relationship everywhere, but when they actually got together, alot of people, including myself didn't like it because "CSI" just isn't that kind of show....just like "Cold Case". Trust me, I am a Lilly and Scotty shipper, but I don't want to see the actual relationship....I want hints dropped every now and then...but if we have to see the actual relationship, I hope the writers do not force a L/S in every episode if that happens.

[lsr]

^^ I totally understand what you're saying. You don't want the relationship to take over the entire show. Agreed. Me neither because I don't think that's how it would be in real life. BUT I do want to at least see some kind of confrontational conversation or confession scene first. After that I don't mind if it's just hints now and then reminding us of their relationship or whatever.

I just watched tonight's eppy! Was anyone else noticing the little looks that Scotty was giving Lil when she was in talking to the rape victim?? See, it's looks like those that make me believe more and more that Scotty is quietly in love with her but doesn't know how to deal with it. He can see that things are swimming beneath the surface of Lilly's strong front. He knows she can't talk about it openly but it's like he desperately wants her to and wants to be there for her. I just cannot wait for a scene where they finally have a face to face about something... anything... that will lead to other things being said. That would make me very happy.

[Tox]

lsr said:

I just watched tonight's eppy! Was anyone else noticing the little looks that Scotty was giving Lil when she was in talking to the rape victim?? See, it's looks like those that make me believe more and more that Scotty is quietly in love with her but doesn't know how to deal with it.

I totally noticed, and while I wouldn't go as far as saying Scotty is in love with Lil, I do think (and hope) it was significant that they kept showing Scotty "noticing." It makes sense that he'd be perceptive of the shooting fallout and how it's affecting Lilly, being that they're partners, and especially with how directly Scotty was involved in the events that took place last season finale. Now, I totally ship them but I also try and keep a realistic outlook on characters. Some things are better left to (well-written) fanfiction, but as long they keep feeding little hints here and there for people to take as they please, I'm a happy camper.

Like, one moment that had me grinning like a fool was the opening scene in the graveyard. Did anyone else noticed that Lil had a cup of coffee (I'm guessing) and she walked onto the scene drinking from it, then Scotty handed her a file and she passed the coffee to him, and he took a sip! I dunno why it tickled me so, but it seemed like a very cute couple-y thing, sharing coffee

Anyhoo, back to Scotty's "little looks", with Lilly admitting that the "nightmares won't stop until you tell someone" -- I hope it does lead to a deep, serious talk between them. It'd be a huge step, and it'll bring them that much closer, as partners, friends, or whatever else might be in store.

[scillylove]

I totally agree, Tox. Whether it will turn romantic or not, Scotty cares deeply about Lilly (and she for him), so to me, it doesn't really make sense for them to not talk about it. I think he's the perfect person to help her through it because he understands her, and she trusts him (and she can say that about very few people).

About the coffee thing, I didn't notice him taking a sip, but I thought it was cute when she was trying to make him hold it, and he was kinda like, "Huh?" but she wouldn't take it back so he just had to hold it for her, that to me seemed couple-y, and I liked it.