Lil's backstory

[Disasterfreak]

I'm personally all for the crumbs ;D. They make happy speculating.

[Tati]

I also prefer getting little pieces of information here and there, even though the mystery sometimes drives me insane. But it wouldn't be so fun if we didn't have anything to speculate on anymore.

[Ryebeach]

If we knew the whole backstory, there would be so little to speculate about reagarding Lilly. By gives us bits and pieces at a time of Lilly's history, we see the character grow episode to episode, something that couldn't be accomplished if we had known here whole backstory from the beginning.

[Naj]

Disasterfread, some of your selections are cracking me up! :lol:

I do like a little at a time but this season they are branching out into the other charcters like all of a sudden there's Stillman's daughter after how many episodes and it seems to come out of nowhere! That was very odd. There needs to be some continuity. I couldn't even remember what was going on with her.

But "crumbs"? as you put it. I would like a little more than crumbs.


~Naj

[TVFan]

I like it the way it is now with the "crumbs" method. It keeps the mystery alive, while also allowing us to understand where Lilly comes from on some of her behaviors.

[javajunkie]

I was about to post a topic about this, and still might. I wish Cold Case would just stick to the CASES. I don't need (or want) to know everyone's "backstory." And they've been doing too much of it this season, with ALL of the characters.

Just "shut up" and solve the cases, that's what I say!

[myril]

I like it revealed in small pieces. It's more fun leaving room for speculation.

JavaJunkie - I personally like it the way it is. Though I agree, the cases should be the focus for the episodes. I think it's great that they give some background of the main characters, it makes it more personal, not just some people solving some cases. And I really like it when they show that the cases and the people involved touch one our more of the detectives. But they should keep it in balance.

[irishkale]

Without Backstory, the entire last half hour of "Mindhunters" would become meaningless!

[Tati]

I think the backstory of the characters, especially Lilly's, plays a big part on the show, in terms of their reactions, how they deal with the cases, and who they are today... no one is only their "professional self". Your personal side is always with you... so it's important, I think.

[Shorty]

im all for the crumbs- if we learnt about her background all at once, we wouldnt retain the information so clearly, also it keeps me watching and wondering, every episode provides new opportunities

[Trublu]

Im all for the little crumbs ;D

[Disasterfreak]

Seems like we're getting a pretty big chunk of cake in the finale. Sit back and enjoy. ;D

Wish I were getting it tomorrow .

[Naj]

Disasterfreak said:

Seems like we're getting a pretty big chunk of cake in the finale. Sit back and enjoy. ;D

Wish I were getting it tomorrow .

Well not so fast. How much is real and how much is made up to deal with her killer of the week? Last night in the finale, I was believing that Lilly was 10 years old and going to the store for alcohol for her mom and was attacked and got her jaw broken and lost five teeth and not sure if she was raped. Or was that true? Or what parts were true?

How much do we really *know* Lilly?


~Naj

[V]

Naj said:

Well not so fast. How much is real and how much is made up to deal with her killer of the week? Last night in the finale, I was believing that Lilly was 10 years old and going to the store for alcohol for her mom and was attacked and got her jaw broken and lost five teeth and not sure if she was raped. Or was that true? Or what parts were true?

How much do we really *know* Lilly?


~Naj

Well, we know of her mom's alcohol problem from previous episodes, so it was believable that Lilly was sent to the store because her mom needed a drink. George already knew of the broken jaw and teeth. That was in the 49 report. If Lilly had been sexually assaulted, wouldn't that have been in the report, too? She never answered that question though, so we don't know for sure whether that is true.

I agree with you, Naj, there is still so much of Lilly that we don't know. Let's hope we get to learn more next season.

That whole interaction between Lilly and George was so well done. George wanted her to tell him what happened to her as a young girl, even though he seemed to already know a lot of it. You could tell he was just eating it up.

[Naj]

George craved attention. It's really very sad. A 45 year old man that couldn't shake his insane mother. It's a wonder he could function and hold a job.

Yes, we do know that Lilly's mom was an alcholic. Still don't know if Lilly was raped. I have to go back to those lines where I thought she said something that there's always more that happens...in reference to what happened to her on her trip to the store after being attacked.

~Naj

[coeurdobscurite]

Yeah, I think the episode was being deliberately vague on whether Lilly was raped, but I got the sense that she was. I think what made me think this was the part when George was asking Lil if all the man took was her money, and she glared at him, teary-eyed, and said something like, "you know he didn't." [not sure of exact wording, though]

I don't think Lilly made up anything for this episode, because it's too impacting, too powerful, and her emotions were too strong for her to have been faking it like she has with previous cases.

[Naj]

Lilly: "He followed me, I gave him what I had."

George: "Then he went his merry way."

Lilly: "You know he didn't."

[Ryebeach]

I wonder if they (the writers and producers) decided to leave it open for the summer or possibly longer to think about just what they want Lilly's backstory to consist of or perhaps to get fans responses to the possibility of her having been raped as a child.

[Naj]

Ryebeach said:

I wonder if they (the writers and producers) decided to leave it open for the summer or possibly longer to think about just what they want Lilly's backstory to consist of or perhaps to get fans responses to the possibility of her having been raped as a child.

Well, this may be true but I'm just waiting for the writers to tell us.

Anyhow if I had to venture a guess or speculation I would think it was something badder than bad.

We do know that Lilly's mom was collecting welfare and that she was an alcoholic. Now was there a father early on? If so did he have his way with Lilly when mom was passed out for hours. Did Lilly try to protect her sister by taking all the abuse.

Yes, this is bad but what if it was worse than that? You hear these stories where women (young girls/children) are taken by men and live in a box under a bed and only taken out for you know what. What if Lilly was treated that way? I feel it is something really awful that she has had to overcome and be where she is now.


~Naj

[Disasterfreak]

Oh, Naj, that's awful.

I know those things happen, but in this case, I really don't think it could be that bad. I honestly don't believe Lilly could function as well as she does if it were... not to mention she wouldn't have gone near a man again (thus Patrick and Kite could never have existed).

I always had the feeling, from the first episodes, she had been raped or at least molested sometime in the past. After hearing all this about her 49, though, I'm almost hoping that's not the case. I mean, I know it sounds likely, but I don't think I can stand so much suffering for her... the beating up was bad enough. Maybe she was molested but not actually raped? It's better than nothing.