Episode 2.15: Wishing *Thread 1*

[TVFan]

This was a very emotional episode. I spent most of the hour on the verge of tears ( I did manage to keep it together, though). The opening scene threw up a red flag, and I said to my fiance, "the mother isn't telling the kid to kill her son, is she?" I put it out of my mind, though, because the case took different directions. Then, when the whole thing came out at the end, I couldn't believe it. I also thoguht that Lea's story was fishy Ryebeach, so I figured she made that one up. I'm sure she never imagined that it would get so out of hand.

There were a lot of tough things in this episode. You have the horrible mistreatement of a mentally handicapped person, Lea's lie and Collin's subsequent beating, Collin's sorry excuse for a father, the mother dying with no one to take her disabled son, and finally the horrendious way in which Collin died. I guess the mother saw no other way out, than to have the care taker help him end his life. So sad!

I too am a fan of that version of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" that was used at the end. There really was no better song for this episode. It was very haunting and sad.

Regarding Lilly and Scotty - I agree that she went too far. I like the way the writers are allowing us to see Lilly's flaws and then decide if we still want to root for her. We've been given the "nice" Lilly, and now it's time to see the "not-so-nice" Lilly. Her imperfections are shining through, and it's making her more real and relatable for me. Scotty probably shouldn't have brought the incident from nine years ago into the argument, but he certainly didn't deserve the hurtful comment he got from Lilly. You could tell from the moment that the words left her mouth that she wished she hadn't said them. I agree with other who have said that she's too proud to apologise, yet.

Overall, a very strong episode.

[CC Fan]

wow! I really liked that episode... I loved the scenes with Lilly and Scotty and while I felt bad for Scotty, I still agree with Lilly but I hope they can work everything out.

The storyline with the boy and the train was really sad.

edited by Naj:

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[Naj]

I had forgotten what Lilly had said to Scotty about Christina:

"whoring it out with a cocktail waitress won't bring back a grilfriend.". And she even said it about her own sister.

I had forgotten about the ending and how some one could just leave someone on the tracks like that. What is wrong with people? I mean we all know that this goes on in life.


~Naj

[samanda]

Which thread are we supposed to post in?

Anyways, the look on Lilly's face after Leah's comment about every girl trying a Beauty and the Beast is almost as good as the one she gives in Hubris about telling her father her sex life.

[irishkale]

One part that I really liked was in the Lilly/Scotty confrontation near the end, when Jeffries walks in to break them up, and says "What's Goin On?!?!", Scotty says "Nothin," then Jeffries calmy gives them an update on the case. In a "soap opera" type of show, Jeffries might make them explain what was going on, or might try to find out what their problems were. It would be a device to draw out more melodrama in the scene.

But the way the writer decided to handle the scene was exactly how it would happen in real life. I've found that while you care about the people you work with, in general you don't want to get deeply involved in other coworkers problems. And when there's yelling between coworkers, generally everyone not involved heads for the hills. It's best not to get involved. That's how Jeffries handles it. He's business as usual.

Then while Jeffries is talking, Lilly is sort of turned away, trying to get control of her emotions. When he finishes, Scotty walks off, then Jeffries lingers for a second, looks at Lilly as if he wants to comfort her, but he changes his mind and walks off. It just seems so perfect how it's written.

[sonny]

I love that scene too irishkale. This was the episode that got me into to Cold Case and it was mainly due to that scene with was so intense and acted so well. I instantly felt for Lilly's character there and then and have been hooked on the show ever since.

[Disasterfreak]

I loved that scene, too. It was so raw in its emotions and so real, like you both (irishkale and sonny) have said. I live for these little bits of reality that CC somehow manages to shove in in the midst of cases, handling them slightly different from other shows, not dwelling on the melodrama (as irishkale mentioned)... mostly just hinting at it. Funny how that can be much more powerful and haunting than an all-out description.

[TVFan]

I agree. It was a very well done scene on everyone's part. I just loved the way Kathryn allowed Lilly to lose control with Scotty. Lilly is normally so careful with her emotions, and she never lets them go unchecked. When she tells Scotty that "whoring it up with a cocktail waitress won't bring back [his] dead girlfriend," you can tell that she instantly regrets the words that just came out of her mouth. The moment where she turns to collect herself is so perfect because she's clearly trying to regain the control she usually exhibits. Lilly really let the whole Chris/Scotty thing get to her, and we got to see the flaws that make Lilly human.

[samanda]

COLD CASE
Air Date: 1/28/06 (SATURDAY)
Time Slot: 8:00 PM-9:00 PM EST on CBS
Episode Title: (#215) "Wishing" (Repeat)

[Naj]

I just had to watch this one again. It's sad to say but one wonders if Nathan did do Colin a favor with the way society treats individuals with mental handicaps. And then Colin and his mother's life changing over a false accusation. One thing we don't know is how the mother reacted to hearing that Colin died and how he died.

Colin's father is not far from people in reality. Not wanting to accept responsibility. It's truer than we all realize. He was an archealogist? (hope he fell in a deep hole, the bas***d)

[canuckiepen]

naj said:

Colin's father is not far from people in reality. Not wanting to accept responsibility. It's truer than we all realize. He was an archealogist? (hope he fell in a deep hole, the bas***d)

I concur :smile7:

[samanda]

:smile21: I agree with you, Naj, but I think Colin's mother told that to Colin just as an explanation for why the father wasn't around.

[boxman]

Wow, I just watched the opening scene of this episode again and knowing the ending of the show, the dialog really hit me this second time.

Did anyone else cue in to the conversation between Colin and his mom the one who's name we shall not say about the age of Mister Wilson, the stuffed rabbit? Colin was concerned that at age three, Mister Wilson was too young for an R-rated movie. After explaining that Mister Wilson ages in rabbit-years, his mom explains to Colin that "to you, Mister Wilson is young, but he's actually lived a good long time."

Holy, cow....I hope it's not just me....but doesn't that statement almost make it easy to figure out what was on the one who's name we shall not say's mind at that moment? When I heard those lines the first time, I thought that it was a nice way to explain why he's allowed to take his stuffed rabbit to the theater. But the second time I heard it, it was like she was saying out loud something she was thinking privately to herself: That Colin appears young, but he's actually lived a good long life.

the one who's name we shall not say never specifically asks Nathan to take Colin to the tracks. But if what she said outloud was a twisted version of what was on her mind, then maybe its safe to conclude that she really was agreeable to the idea of putting Colin to rest, as she herself was about to by entering the hospice???

[myril]

Hm, interesting point, boxman. And it's possible. When I first saw that scene, I had the impression she was talking about herself, sort of preparing Colin for the coming. For sure I think her situation and the worries about Colin influenced what she said´at that moment about Mr Wilson. And it's open for interpretations.

[longislanditalian2]

I agree about that

[longislanditalian2]

Did anyone catch, When leigh says to Lilly among the lines of " going out with someone bad that your mother doesn't approved of, we all tried that at one time" then the camera the zooms into Lilly who raises her eyebrows thinking about Ray