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Post by TVFan on Mar 31, 2008 16:00:11 GMT -5
THE TEAM INVESTIGATES THE 1997 MURDER OF AN EX-CON WHO WAS THOUGHT TO BE A FUGITIVE UNTIL LILLY IS HANDED NEWFOUND EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY, ON "COLD CASE," SUNDAY, APRIL 13
Emmy Award Winner Bobby Cannavale ("Will & Grace") Joins the Cast In a Recurring Role As a Narcotics Cop
John Pyper Ferguson ("Brothers & Sisters") and Emmy Award Winner Gordon Clapp ("NYPD Blue") Guest Star
Lilly Rush: Kathryn Morris
Scotty Valens: Danny Pino
Lt. John Stillman: John Finn
Nick Vera: Jeremy Ratchford
Will Jeffries: Thom Barry
Kat Miller: Tracie Thoms
Eddie Saccardo: Bobby Cannavale
Daniel O'Leary (1997, 2008): Gordon Clapp
Peter "Pete" Doyle (1997):. John Pyper Ferguson
Jules Murphy (1997, 2008): Gigi Rice
Bernie Murphy (1997, 2008): Rob Nagle
Petey Murphy (1997): Gregory Mikurak
Petey Murphy (2008): Paul Wesley
Tommy Connell (1997, 2008): Maury Sterling
Manny Hernandez (1997, 2008): Joe Nieves
Gil (1997): Sean Moran
WRITTEN BY: Christopher Silber
DIRECTED BY: Alex Zakrzewski
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Post by Naj on Apr 13, 2008 19:24:05 GMT -5
Note: Cold Case will air at 9:42 pm (ET) due to CBS sports coverage today.
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Post by coldfan74 on Apr 13, 2008 21:40:51 GMT -5
Hmm...I'll have to post tomorrow how or why, but this episode just didn't work for me.
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Post by cellogal on Apr 13, 2008 21:42:46 GMT -5
Please tell me I'm not the only one who doesn't like The New Guy. It felt like he dominated every scene he was in, and kinda took away from the ensemble nature of the case. I felt like he was front and center, and everyone else faded into the background. Anybody else feel that way?
I'm like coldfan74, the episode as a whole didn't work for me as well. Between the confusing nature of the case and the new guy, I didn't feel like I really got my Sunday night quality time with my favorite detectives.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Apr 13, 2008 21:44:49 GMT -5
Second episode where Lilly didn't look like a Zombie. Plus she has a new coat that hasn't been seen before. I think the old Lilly is back.
The first thing I noticed was that The victim Pete did look up at the sky seeing the light, like the flash yellow one that Lilly had seen in last week's episode. Maybe means to be cautious of something or it was a use of foreshadowing.
In Pete's case it was Death but for Lilly it meant a personal change in her own life.
This new guy Eddie I can see her being attracted to him. He's a lot different than the other guys. I like how he snapped a picture of her on his camera phone than cuts her off on her sentences later. It was funny how Lilly pushed him out of the room .
The end I could see how Lilly is trying hard to avoid him but can't for some reason.
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Post by tvjunkie on Apr 13, 2008 22:02:05 GMT -5
Didn't work for me confussing and cliche
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Post by boxman on Apr 13, 2008 22:05:33 GMT -5
It's interesting--but not surprising--what I'm reading so far from ColdFan74 and CelloGal. I was wondering how they were going to follow up both "Andy" and "The Road". I'm a little surprised they went with such a guy-heavy case myself. I've noticed that father-son episodes have a tougher time going over with the people here. I don't see the chemistry between Lilly and "New Guy" either, and it doesn't seem as if they really tried to get them to mix tonight. I guess after seeing Lilly mostly single for five seasons, it's a little hard imagining what's her "type"?
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Post by eurache on Apr 13, 2008 22:24:37 GMT -5
I was kind of disappointed with this episode  I thought it was going to be a repeat of another episode, I can't think of the name, where the son gets mad at the father and accidently shoots him.  As for the new character? He sucked I was NOT too happy with him and I don't think this is gonna work, if they plan to try to set these two up.   |
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Post by boxman on Apr 13, 2008 22:37:27 GMT -5
I thought it was going to be a repeat of another episode, I can't think of the name, where the son gets mad at the father and accidently shoots him... Are you thinking "Frank's Best"? |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Apr 13, 2008 22:43:05 GMT -5
Perhaps this is new guy will lead Lilly to find her happiness for herself. Maybe the two will just remain friends cause I don't see any possiblity of them getting together. Scotty would be better suited for a lover than Eddie. At least there is chemistry between them both.
The episode really wasn't that great, sorry to say this. The next one in two weeks looks more interesting than this one. Personally it went too slow and I think Eddie is like an annoying little brother that Lilly thinks is annoying. At least he isn't Joseph( aka Mr. Kitty Donuts) but at the same time he isn't really a good chracter for a love interest.
If this was Scotty yeah I can see a good romance devolop but not him.
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Post by eurache on Apr 13, 2008 22:44:26 GMT -5
I thought it was going to be a repeat of another episode, I can't think of the name, where the son gets mad at the father and accidently shoots him... Are you thinking "Frank's Best"? Yep, I think that's the one. Thanks Boxman  |
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Apr 13, 2008 23:57:50 GMT -5
I think I'm one of the few who thought this episode was good. Granted it wasn't stellar, or great, but it wasn't horrible either.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Apr 14, 2008 0:02:06 GMT -5
At least Lilly doesn't appear to be looking like Zombie did anyone catch her sitting in the observation room watching the interrogation without any indication from the shooting. Perhaps this last case maybe Lilly realize she needed to move on with her own life. There was no indication of any weakness.
Did anyone catch the first song during the flashback called" Bad Reputation" which was the same name as the episode?
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Post by adbutler4089 on Apr 14, 2008 2:24:11 GMT -5
This episode was based entirely on the title on both the victim and the killer. Peter was trying to get a second chance in life but could not because of his "Bad Reputation." The police officer who killed him was a good cop turned bad. So you can say that he was getting ready to start his "bad reputation.
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Post by Collider on Apr 14, 2008 5:21:41 GMT -5
Jumping on the "meh" bandwagon here, which is a shame because I'd seen some real potential in the first ten minutes or so.
Agree with most of the people who don't think much of the new guy. It almost seemed to me like they were trying to put him across as this charismatic mystery superman, whom everyone else fell for right away (as evidenced by the whole beer-bottle-clinky scene at the end, and that section with the barbecue ribs, 'cause who doesn't love a random stranger who brings beer and food?), but who would need to work that little bit harder to win over Lilly, who doesn't fall for that shtick. But it didn't come across that way at all, least not to me, and I just couldn't see the supposed charisma in the guy at all. Though I could be a little influenced by the fact that, while I can't put my finger on what exactly, something about his voice bothers me.
As to the plot proper... it could've been so much better than it was. I get where they were coming from - reformed convict done over by a dirty cop, all very deep. But it almost seemed like they'd got that idea and didn't really feel they needed to work particularly hard in getting there. Plus, personally, it felt extremely out of character (IMHO) that all of a sudden O'Leary would be into armed robbery; there were a billion different ways they could've played out that final scene without detaching from the "good convict / bad cop" vibe, and this one just struck a "...?" sort of chord. And I really did like the character of Pete, so it was sad they never really did him any justice by giving him a believable death.
I also sorely felt the absence of any real interaction between our series regulars this week, mostly because the weekly quota of "scenes that don't have to relate to the case" seemed to be filled up in trying to sell us on the New Guy... which might not have been so grating or painfully noticeable, if I actually found the guy likeable. And I'm all for giving the new recurring guests a chance (I didn't much like Joseph in his first episode, but he'd grown on me by the end, so I'll stay open-minded about New Guy for the time being)... but not when it's at the cost of our regulars. In an episode like this - where the plot is weak - it's pretty much down to those cute little scenes between the detectives to hold the episode above water and keep it from getting too dire... so the absence of that here, in favour of more stuff that made me cringe (aka the New Guy), really didn't do it any favours.
I shall be quiet now, lest I go on for another five hundred pages. But that's just my first impressions. As a rule, I tend to be over-generous when rating things, because I can usually find at least one thing I love in even the poorest episodes (and this goes double for a show like Cold Case)... but, even so, I could only give this one an 'okay'.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Apr 14, 2008 7:29:11 GMT -5
Here's something else the new guy and Lilly have absolutely no chemistry what so ever, even the actors don't.
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Post by Naj on Apr 14, 2008 7:57:08 GMT -5
Well this was a very lackluster episode. I couldnt' even get into the case. The father/victim I recently saw on a Hallmark movie.  And I did like him there but this story was just uninteresting to me. The new cop is too much testosterone for me. I can't stand men like that in real life. And I just don't see him with Lilly. Yuk! So I can understand her reaction to him but pushing some kind of attraction with them is gonna be so icky. Not looking forward to anything more in that direction. |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Apr 14, 2008 8:30:27 GMT -5
Perhaps the writers will see that the us the viewers don't like him and cut him out. All in all Lilly doesn't look like Zombie
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Post by yankee1151 on Apr 14, 2008 10:39:09 GMT -5
I posted on another board that this dude reminds me of the "dim but lovable" brother from Everybody Loves Raymond. I think the voice has a lot to do with it. Whatev, he irritates me, and it seems they're setting us up for a regurgitation of the Scotty/annoying ADA storyline with Lilly and this yahoo. Yawn.
I thought the case was pretty good, though. I thought it was the stepdad too, so any CC that surprises me at the end gets bonus points. Not bad. Would have been a lot better without Raymond's brother 2.0
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Post by tvjunkie on Apr 14, 2008 11:20:31 GMT -5
I think the audience is suppose see the new guy through Lilys eyes He annoys her he annoys us As he grows on her he will grow on us Its like Gable and Colbert in It Happened One Night or Grant and Hepburn in the Philly Story Very old fashion love story line Problem is the actor is so over the top he is out of sync with the style of the show Its like he made a wrong turn from another cop show and ended up on the Cold Case set He takes up way to much space The whole show this week seemed out of sync storywise It didn't weave well together
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I thought it was going to be a repeat of another episode, I can't think of the name, where the son gets mad at the father and accidently shoots him. 
As for the new character? He sucked 
And I did like him there but this story was just uninteresting to me. The new cop is too much testosterone for me. I can't stand men like that in real life. And I just don't see 
