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Post by longislanditalian2 on Dec 1, 2008 9:58:16 GMT -5
I still didn't see anything between Scotty and Frankie; I found her scenes to be very lame. As for the Lilly thing; she's becoming so obbessed in this whole Cooper thing. You can actually sense that her heart was frantically beating when she put the envelope into his mailbox. Other than that, I thought the ADA bike thing was pretty funny.
After Dexter's ghost faded away, Lilly stood there for a moment before walking away as the words: FAITH was displayed there. Is this a sign for Lilly or what?
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Post by mitchy on Dec 1, 2008 11:21:36 GMT -5
I want to watch it again when it's broadcast on Sky here in the UK on Thursday According to Sky's website it is not on on Thursday. In fact it doesn't look like any new episodes will be on until late January at the earliest. Perhaps there will be more breaks in the US schedule next year and Sky just want to run them all back-to-back without breaks so they are leaving them for a while. *throws things at Sky* What, they couldn't wait until after this week's ep?!? *snarls* Oh well :) |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Dec 1, 2008 11:33:55 GMT -5
Another thing I had noticed, is when Scotty picks up the letter. You can almost hear the tears in Lilly's voice but it's of sadness. Listen as he tells her to go to the post office, the way he says it slowly. I think Scotty is picking up on something especially since the left hand corner of the envelope clearly is Lilly's home address.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Dec 1, 2008 14:37:00 GMT -5
Dissapointed... I'm really dissapointed... I did not have extreme high expectations with this episode... I'll say why
*Scotty and Frankie: I prefer not to take this thing very seriously since I always ignore all Soctty's toxic relationships
*Stillman was one of the best things of the show
*Kat and the new ADA? LOL, That was funny
*Lilly was really nice, we need to see the Cooper thing solved.
*Did not like the music and flashback style
*The case: the story was not bad and It was related to B Obama in some way but not all things were related. However, The way they turned everything into the restaurant owner and Another HEAT OF THE MOMENT made the story fail for me.... It could have been something like in "Late Returns" but this one just was OK... It was not a bad episode for me either but nothing like others this season I just loved.
* AGAIN, No detectives or the right person seeing the victim. Victor was not the appropiate person to see Dex...They were good friends, Yeah but I would have prefered his father, Casey or Lilly to see him... I Mean, Lilly was really interested in this case... She had to see Dex Ghost in the end... This is one of the very few things I have not liked this season
Questions...
* Dex Death was ruled as an overdose in the beginning? or a drug deal gone bad?
* Boone cleaned up the street the day Dex was killed? There were no dealers
*In the end Casey gives a pair of tennis shoes to someone? Another candidate?
*Can someone explain me what exactly Lilly was doing since I do not understand US Postal Service... she was writing letters and then deposit them into his mailbox, isnt that a federal offense?
Thanx
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Post by riche on Dec 1, 2008 14:36:34 GMT -5
Another thing I had noticed, is when Scotty picks up the letter. You can almost hear the tears in Lilly's voice but it's of sadness. Listen as he tells her to go to the post office, the way he says it slowly. I think Scotty is picking up on something especially since the left hand corner of the envelope clearly is Lilly's home address. Is that Riverside Drive address Lilly's? Of course what Scotty is more likely to spot is that the Haddonfield address is not Lilly's neighbour's. He read the name, he's gonna see the NJ reference. Looks more like she's stolen or intercepted Paul Cooper's mail. |
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Post by ali on Dec 1, 2008 15:51:41 GMT -5
I gave it a "good", even if I didn't like the episode so much: I don't know why, but I had the impression that there was something wrong in the plot.
For example, the gun which killed Dexter: how does the prisoner in the beginning knows where it is? It remained three years where Lilly and Scotty found it?
And what about the drug?
Usually in Cold Case everything have a logical explanation in the end, but this "closing of the circle" didn't happen this time.
But I didn't understood everything because of the language, so I have to watch it again...
Anyway, I liked Stillman very much: the scene with Boone was one of the best of the episode.
The new ADA: he was funny, and I loved how Kat looked at him, but the mechanism "she-hate-him-but-then-she-discovers-he-is-not-so-jackass-like-she-thought" was used also for Lilly and Saccardo...and the couple cop/ADA is becoming boring. But I trust the writers.
Scotty/Frankie: I don't know. I liked her last episode, but this time not so much.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Dec 1, 2008 15:59:51 GMT -5
I had such high hopes for this episode. I thought based on what I had read and what I saw in the promo that this was going to be one of "those" episodes where we're all sitting there at the end, tears in our eyes wondering "why the hell did this have to happen?" as has happened in the past with other episodes. Instead, I was left saying "why the hell did this have to happen" because the episode was so god-awful. Really, I think the bulk of my disappointment with this episode was the fact that they could have really made this a powerful, moving episode about one man's desire to make his neighborhood a better place and how he paid for it in the end with his life. Shame on you Cold Case, we have come to expect better than this. Sorry if this comes across harsh, but this is one of the rare times CC has managed to anger me, rather than impress me. Yeah, This could have been one of this show's best but Christopher Silber did not make it through... I usually dont like his eps(Thick as Thieves and Bad reputation) I gave it a "good", even if I didn't like the episode so much: I don't know why, but I had the impression that there was something wrong in the plot. For example, the gun which killed Dexter: how does the prisoner in the beginning knows where it is? It remained three years where Lilly and Scotty found it? And what about the drug? Usually in Cold Case everything have a logical explanation in the end, but this "closing of the circle" didn't happen this time. But I didn't understood everything because of the language, so I have to watch it again... Anyway, I liked Stillman very much: the scene with Boone was one of the best of the episode. The new ADA: he was funny, and I loved how Kat looked at him, but the mechanism "she-hate-him-but-then-she-discovers-he-is-not-so-jackass-like-she-thought" was used also for Lilly and Saccardo...and the couple cop/ADA is becoming boring. But I trust the writers. Scotty/Frankie: I don't know. I liked her last episode, but this time not so much. Grazie ali... That's exactly what I was thinking: something was wrong with the plot development.... The story was good but the plot was not properly explained... |
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Post by Electrophile on Dec 1, 2008 17:18:35 GMT -5
Questions... * Dex Death was ruled as an overdose in the beginning? or a drug deal gone bad? * Boone cleaned up the street the day Dex was killed? There were no dealers *In the end Casey gives a pair of tennis shoes to someone? Another candidate? *Can someone explain me what exactly Lilly was doing since I do not understand US Postal Service... she was writing letters and then deposit them into his mailbox, isnt that a federal offense? Thanx They thought Dex died because of a drug deal gone bad, as he was found with crack and a crack pipe. We saw later in the episode he took them from Victor to keep him from using, but they obviously didn't know that at the time. Yeah, in response to Dex keeping the info about the pictures quiet, Boone had his friends in the police department sweep 6th Street and clear it out. I would believe that is who she was giving the shoes to, kind of as a nod to Dex and how he showed the duality of being both politician and typical Philly guy. It is not a federal offense to write someone a letter and put it in their mailbox. People do it all the time! She was writing Paul Cooper a letter or sending him something and put it in his mailbox, which a lot of people do. I know I get a lot of Christmas cards from people in my neighborhood that way. |
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Post by riche on Dec 1, 2008 17:36:44 GMT -5
She was writing Paul Cooper a letter or sending him something and put it in his mailbox, which a lot of people do. The fact that there were multiple letters of different types and they appear to have stamps on suggests to me Lilly was not posting Paul Cooper a letter herself.  |
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Post by anneinchicago on Dec 1, 2008 17:52:15 GMT -5
Sorry, but this episode bored me to tears.
And was the drugs in being found in Dex's hand ever explained? Or was it just forgotten?
As for the ADA... Yes, he had his amusing moments but let's not forget he's also sharp as a tack. And effective. I had the feeling the fumbling for his papers was just a ploy. As in- Oh, look. I'm so incompetent. Then BAM! He produces the guy's mother(in a wheelchair, no less) and threatens to throw her in jail. Excellent way to get the guy to cave.
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Post by Gina on Dec 1, 2008 18:18:18 GMT -5
I liked this episode, it was very good in my opinion. BTW, I love how all of my music guesses were wrong?  lol |
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Post by SamIam on Dec 1, 2008 19:11:08 GMT -5
And was the drugs in being found in Dex's hand ever explained? Or was it just forgotten? he had picked them up off of the cofee table at that guys apartment,( sorry i cant remember his name) anyway i really liked this episode. It had a good story and a lot of other really good stuff. I love the new ADA! ohmy gosh the interrogation with kat and then the bicycle - that was priceless. One thing im not sure of is this whole scotty/frankie thing. i really hope it doesn't go anywhere. i dont really like her Also the whole lilly drama thing. i love lilly and im okay with all her drama but i would really wish they would go ahead and tell us who this cooper guy is. They're really dragging it out. I wonder what she wrote in the letter and im also wondering what scotty thinks of the whole thing. There was a lot of other good stuff im probably forgetting to mention  ~Sam |
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Post by Electrophile on Dec 1, 2008 19:30:36 GMT -5
Sorry, but this episode bored me to tears. And was the drugs in being found in Dex's hand ever explained? Or was it just forgotten? As I explained above, Dex had the drugs because he took them from Victor to keep him from using. It was in the same scene of him telling Victor that someone slipped photos of Boone and the stripper under his door. |
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Post by adbutler4089 on Dec 1, 2008 23:23:35 GMT -5
It was pretty good. Being a fan of hip-hop. I like the scene when Dex and Victor met up for the first time in years with Common's "The Corner" playing. Bill Duke played a nice role as "Boone."
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Post by trichotillo on Dec 2, 2008 1:47:14 GMT -5
I also liked this episode. The writing was very good and the ending wasn't bad. The killer had a viable motive that wasn't just tacked onto the end of the episode (i.e., The Dealer, Triple Threat).
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Post by eduardodelroice on Dec 2, 2008 3:01:32 GMT -5
I would believe that is who she was giving the shoes to, kind of as a nod to Dex and how he showed the duality of being both politician and typical Philly guy. It is not a federal offense to write someone a letter and put it in their mailbox. People do it all the time! She was writing Paul Cooper a letter or sending him something and put it in his mailbox, which a lot of people do. I know I get a lot of Christmas cards from people in my neighborhood that way. Thanks electrophile... The guy Caseey was giving the shoes to, I think he was another candidate... As Riche said, It seemed some letters were sent to Cooper from different people and Lil took the letters, that would be a federal offense I liked this episode, it was very good in my opinion. BTW, I love how all of my music guesses were wrong? lol Yep, Mine were wrong too |
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Post by SamIam on Dec 2, 2008 15:09:15 GMT -5
As Riche said, It seemed some letters were sent to Cooper from different people and Lil took the letters, that would be a federal offense wait lil took some letters OUT of his mailbox. i thought she just put the one that was on her desk when she was at work in her mailbox. she actually intercepted his mail. wow that's just a bit creepy. |
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Post by eduardodelroice on Dec 2, 2008 15:14:15 GMT -5
wait lil took some letters OUT of his mailbox. i thought she just put the one that was on her desk when she was at work in her mailbox. she actually intercepted his mail. wow that's just a bit creepy. Well Sam, The point is that exactly we dont know what happened. It could be that she wrote a letter to him but It also seemed that she took his correspondence from his mailbox... And I love Lil but that's even a felony I think. So, since she's a cop and she knows it... She should be aware of that |
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Post by Electrophile on Dec 2, 2008 15:26:37 GMT -5
It's called suspension of disbelief. We're led to think that things that are not possible, suddenly CAN be possible, if only to further along the plot. We all know and I'm sure the writers do too that tampering with someone's mail is a federal offense. But to further along this particular plot point (which apparently will begin being resolved in the next episode), they want us to think that Lilly can do it, and that she did do it.
It's nothing that movies and other TV shows haven't been doing for decades. Books do it too.
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Post by eduardodelroice on Dec 2, 2008 16:08:20 GMT -5
It's called suspension of disbelief. We're led to think that things that are not possible, suddenly CAN be possible, if only to further along the plot. We all know and I'm sure the writers do too that tampering with someone's mail is a federal offense. But to further along this particular plot point (which apparently will begin being resolved in the next episode), they want us to think that Lilly can do it, and that she did do it. It's nothing that movies and other TV shows haven't been doing for decades. Books do it too. Thank you electrophile for your explanation. Talking again about the episode.. I thought Lilly was gonna be the one who was gonna see Dexter's ghost... When detectives will see again the victims???  |
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