Ep. 5.07 World's End **100th EPISODE**

[irishkale]

irishkale & TRB,

I wondered if they would make the ep cheesey too to the point when they panned out in the first scene of Audrey's body I expected to see her in a wheatfield outside of Philly in the middle of a crop circle. That pic at the end of the newspaper - who was that?

That was Orson Welles!

Now do I get a Taxi Dance?

[boxman]

myril said:

Sometimes it was just the subtly of a gesture, mimik, lightening, the composition of the scene. Very good work, of the actresses and actors, and of the director. Looks like Roxann Dawson finds always the right visual language to please me

Yeah, there were several times in this episode where I thought, "Wow"!! The camera angle, the lighting and everything was just gorgeous and done very smoothly. Scenes were presented creatively without being obstructive or annoying.

I agree with most, what you wrote here, boxman. Just one thing. Yeah, you can see a swastika, not on first look there for me, but not impossible. But think the angle of the leg would suggest a left-facing swastika, and the Nazi symbol was right-facing. On the other hand, the right arm could be seen in the right angle. Maybe they couldn't quite make up their mind, which way to point it

They could have broken a few of Bellamy Young's limbs to get that swastika shape to come out more clearly. I'm a bit disappointed they didn't go that far. ;D

babyv16 said:

Vera...omg he's so sweet!!! I love how we see two sides of him - one that's all I-don't-give-a-damn-cop, and then the way he acted around Toni...that was priceless.

That's one of the things I like about how this show has evolved--They've come to show more than one side to these cops. Do you watch old detective shows, BabyV?? Because when I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, television would rarely do this. In fact, other than Tom Selleck on "Magnum P.I." or the women of "Cagney and Lacey", I can't really think of any cop on television or in the movies that were presented with much complexity. Often, cops were portrayed as that "I-don't-give-a-damn" tough guys. I easily remember Kojak, McGarrett ("Hawaii Five-O"), and Crockett & Tubbs ("Miami Vice") as these types of cops. I think the genre has matured by being able to show a lead character's strengths and weaknesses as in Lilly, or in the movies as in "Batman Begins" or "Spiderman 3", for example....

[TVFan]

I gave this one a "good" because I expected a little bit more from it considering it was the 100th. BUT after reading all of your comments, I think it deserves a little more credit. I guess I'm somewhere between "good" and "excellent."

As usual, I found myself nodding in agreement with everything LillyKat said. LOVED the weekly dose of funny moments, Vera going all in with Toni (if memory serves me right, Kite was the last one to do this way back in season one, but not even he put this much on the line), Kat and Stillman's dance and of course, Lilly's AWESOME interrogation at the end where she became Audrey. Very well done and definitely chill-inducing as others have mentioned.

It was also fun to see the episode tie in so much history without making it seem like they were trying too hard. War of the Worlds, the Depression, WWII, etc. - it was all interesting and worked nicely in the episode.

Overall, a well done episode that kept me glued and managed to make me laugh (again).

[Naj]

Now do I get a Taxi Dance?

Why, I was hoping you'd ask.

[toddsmitts]

The line about Stillman hearing the original broadcast and having a wife at the time threw me. The way they showed it, it did look like he was talking about his experiences

If he was just twenty years old, that'd make him 89 now. It would also likely mean him and his wife had their now-thirtysomething daughter when they were in their fifties

I agree that Felton, and Will didn't look nearly old enough for guys who should have been pushing a century, if they hadn't already passed it. That's one case where maybe they should have invested in some make-up (something like Gloria Stuart in "Titanic")

I was gonna say the guy in the hospital (Uncle Leo from "Seinfeld") didn't look old enough either but he was born in 1922, according to IMDB, so what do you know?

That being said, I really liked this episode.

[myril]

toddsmitts said:

The line about Stillman hearing the original broadcast and having a wife at the time threw me. The way they showed it, it did look like he was talking about his experiences

Interesting, how many people perceived it like Stillman was talking about himself and his wife. Did they want to play a little hoax on us? I found it quite obvious though, that he was reading from the folder in his hand, quoting like the others did before, guess from interviews police did back then after Audrey vanished. So I wonder now, what made so many people think, Stillman might have talked about himself, despite that it would be impossible seeing his age. Would have been a major mistake of writing or acting and should thing CC is more professional than doing such a mistake, or not?

[littlelaura1992]

I loved this episode! It was great! I especially love those episodes that are slightly older because I really enjoy the music. One thing that I loved even if it was only small was Lilly talking about her grandmother. You never hear of any other family members except her mom and her sister except (occasionally) her dad. I always wanted to know what the rest of her family were like.
I also liked Scotty talking about cars. I don't really know why...he just sounded so darn cute when he did and I was happily cheesing away, listening to him ;D
I LOVED the dance with Kat and Stillman at the end. It had me in stitches!
Another thing I loved was VERA!!
I have a best friend who doesn't get the chance to watch the show so I normally just give her a recap and clearly explain everything that Vera does because he is her favourite character. This time though, it was so hard to explain the hospital scene! I couldn't get all the words out for laughing so much and I got told off a hundred times by my English teacher for being so noisy! It was juts his face when he was running into the hospital and attempting to avoid all the beds and stuff and then when he told Toni to think about it, I thought he was going to fall over when he turned around. Either that, or walk into the door! ;D
Overall fantastic episode and Lilly pretending to be Audrey was such a powerful performance by Kathryn. I sat on the edge of my seat watching it. I was really scared actually that Felton was going to strangle Lilly, like he'd done to Audrey.
Did anyone notice just how sad Lilly looked at the end when she saw Audrey and Will dancing. I think she feels lonely knowing that she might not have somebody if the world ended.
One thing I was slightly disappointed in was that there was no reference to the shooting or therapy sessions. I hoped that Lilly would reconsider her last session and want to go back, but I guess not. I also wanted to see more about Scotty and the IAD...or the ADA
Lol

[Naj]

Can't let this thread go without mentioning that Larry King had a night of discussion about UFO's, Friday November 9 prior to the National Press Club meeting in Washington on Monday, November 12 where former high level government employees, military officials and pilots from all over the world will meet. The show is in six parts.

[KathrynFan]

i maybe the only one that thinks that they could of had a better episode for there 100th i was kind of dissapointed with this episode, but thats me :-P

[Disasterfreak]

Excellent!! Thought I'd never get to watch this episode for... er... various reasons. But I ended up catching the rerun on WB. I didn't realize while I was watching that it was the 100th episode--but come to think of it it's pretty appropriate.

I loved ALL the parts everyone else loved--Kat & Stillman dancing, Lil pretending to be Audrey (I KNEW she was gonna do that from the start--it's what I would have done), Nick running after Toni (though I stray FAR from romantic--I love the idea of those 2. To the point of going awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww--sick, I know, I know )... everything. They had an uncommonly good grip on the Orson Wells broadcast, and made it fit the plot perfectly.

The ending seemed almost unbearably sad though. That poor little boy, now all grown up--his world just came tumbling down. The good world he'd managed to conjure up. Poor thing.

Rev said:

Now I'm wondering about something. How old is Stillman? I had always assumed he was in his late 60s early 70s, but he says that him and his wife heard the broadcast on their car radio. So I guess that means he's in his 70s-80s

I got a definite chill reading that. Somehow that was never the impression I got while watching the show. I was always convinced (as at least 2 or 3 other people were) he was just reading off the clippings. No way Stillman's a day over 60.

I couldn’t help but think what if that happened today. Obviously, it never would. We live in far too much of a different world, and there isn’t a one-source media outlet with one channel of information to give us the impression of what is going on in the the great wide open (as Tom Petty sang it).

Never say never. I distinctly remember a war of the worlds-like film a couple of years ago that, if it hadn't been on HBO, woulda made think twice. It was made to look like a newscast... pretty convincing on the whole. AND about a year ago a whole city over here in my country was in uproar, people running to the hills and everything, because some idiot on the radio started saying there was a Tsunami scare. People are still people... and people are gullible.

And to everyone who thought the actors looked too good to be in their late 80s/90s... I work at a senior residence and most of my patients are that age... and they all look about the same. So yeah... it can happen.

RE-EDIT: Anyone catch that "Penny Centavo" thing? WTH was that? LOL. Interesting choice of words, er, name.

[Naj]

"Penny Centavo" - I missed it. I should watch this ep again. I loved it. I wish they could release it as a standalone with some extras. I'm glad you liked it, DF. ;D I liked the love story. It was a classic CC ep too which made it all the more desirable.

[eurache]

CBS REPEAT - MAY 25TH, 2008

[cellogal]

Vera/Toni and the Kat/Stillman dance absolutely MADE this episode for me. This show's brand of humor is just genius.

[toddsmitts]

Nov 4, 2007 22:35:44 GMT -5 Naj said:

I also enjoyed the Lilly connection to the father interrogation which is quite similar from Season 1 Churchgoing People which had one of the best guest actress' in that episode of the entire series, IMO. So it was nice to see Lilly in that situation again with an Althziemers parent.

I actually noted on the wiki page that there were quite a few parallels in this episode to "Churchgoing People":


-Both victims were killed in their own house by their spouse after the revelation that they'd been seeing someone else.

-The obvious one: In both, the doer is suffering from Alzheimer's in the present. They both confuse Lilly with someone else, which she later uses to her advantage.

-The doer also lives with and is cared for by their grown son, who initially attempts to keep the truth, to some degree, from the detectives.

-Both episodes end with the doer being arrested or locked up. In both cases, though, I'd find it hard to believe someone so far along with Alzheimer's would be considered fit to stand trial. (I remember they did and episode of "Law & Order" that dealt with that).

[Electrophile]

I just watched this episode a few hours ago and thought about maybe posting my thoughts on it.


I really loved it. The music, the costumes, the set design.....everything. And how can you go wrong with closing it out with Ol' Blue Eyes? My only little quibble with that is that the episode was set in 1938, but Frank didn't record that song until the early 40s. So there's no way it could have been played on the radio, but I'd be willing to bet someone who isn't a diehard fan like I am wouldn't have known that. It's not really one of his more well-known songs, although it should be.

The character of Audrey Metz is someone I understood right away; she wanted more for herself than just being a housewife and she hated the fact that her family put on this pretense when her husband was out of work and they were living on hardly any money. I felt for her need to take to taxi dancing to help support her family, but when things are that tough, you do what you have to do to keep food on the table. I thought the ending scene was just amazing. The tie-in to the dance ticket and the closing song was a nice touch and the fact that the two pieces fit together perfectly....it was nice imagery.

I loved the interrogation between Felton and Lilly....how she became Audrey in order to get the truth out of him. Great acting by both parties.


Overall, this was a fantastic episode and a really good way to cap off 100 episodes of such a great show.

[eduardodelroice]

Dec 7, 2008 20:18:17 GMT -5 Electrophile said:

I just watched this episode a few hours ago and thought about maybe posting my thoughts on it.


I really loved it. The music, the costumes, the set design.....everything. And how can you go wrong with closing it out with Ol' Blue Eyes? My only little quibble with that is that the episode was set in 1938, but Frank didn't record that song until the early 40s. So there's no way it could have been played on the radio, but I'd be willing to bet someone who isn't a diehard fan like I am wouldn't have known that. It's not really one of his more well-known songs, although it should be.

The character of Audrey Metz is someone I understood right away; she wanted more for herself than just being a housewife and she hated the fact that her family put on this pretense when her husband was out of work and they were living on hardly any money. I felt for her need to take to taxi dancing to help support her family, but when things are that tough, you do what you have to do to keep food on the table. I thought the ending scene was just amazing. The tie-in to the dance ticket and the closing song was a nice touch and the fact that the two pieces fit together perfectly....it was nice imagery.

I loved the interrogation between Felton and Lilly....how she became Audrey in order to get the truth out of him. Great acting by both parties.


Overall, this was a fantastic episode and a really good way to cap off 100 episodes of such a great show.

electrophile, about the music... The same thing happened in Torn. Because the song used in the end was Stardust and that song was released in 1927. It is hard to find a song very popular for a specific year from those years 1910's, 1920's, 1930's and 1940's

[Electrophile]

I partially agree about the 1910s and 20s, but not the 30s and 40s. There is quite literally loads of songs recorded in the 20 year span from 1930-1949, so it's not like they were hurting for choices. I mean a simple Google search can yield a lot of results.


Another thing, Cold Case doesn't always use popular music or songs that we'd know from the Singles charts or Top 40 radio. If that's what they do use to find music for their episodes, I think they're closing themselves off to a lot of music.

[eduardodelroice]

Dec 8, 2008 21:13:28 GMT -5 Electrophile said:

I partially agree about the 1910s and 20s, but not the 30s and 40s. There is quite literally loads of songs recorded in the 20 year span from 1930-1949, so it's not like they were hurting for choices. I mean a simple Google search can yield a lot of results.


Another thing, Cold Case doesn't always use popular music or songs that we'd know from the Singles charts or Top 40 radio. If that's what they do use to find music for their episodes, I think they're closing themselves off to a lot of music.

That's right... that's something I liked about the episode "True Calling", the final song wasn't the most popular REM song...but it was very proper for the case... They dont always have to use the top 20...
About music for old cases/Maybe they wanted to use a popular song from that time(not the precise year) and the final song was related to the case, also

[Electrophile]

I wasn't disagreeing about the relevance of the song. It clearly fit the ending they wrote and the imagery they wanted. I was just pointing out that the usage of the song was anachronistic.

[eduardodelroice]

Dec 9, 2008 19:48:06 GMT -5 Electrophile said:

I wasn't disagreeing about the relevance of the song. It clearly fit the ending they wrote and the imagery they wanted. I was just pointing out that the usage of the song was anachronistic.

Yep, I see what you mean, sorry
I meant I thought It was harder to find songs for Old cases...