Lilly and Scotty ... Oh My!

[Naj]

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Well what's gonna happen with these two who have to work together? When Lilly gets mad she becomes one wicked, ugly someone else! It's a bit scary. She kinda reminds me of my mom who was quite vindictive in her life..

I have to laugh Stillman and Vera noticed his dishelved self. Of course we all know what that's like when we're in love!

[Ryebeach]

Naj said:

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When Lilly gets mad she becomes one wicked, ugly someone else! It's a bit scary.

Lilly was scary. It was a side of her we'd yet to see and I don't care for it.

[Naj]

You know I think we did see some of it with Kite! There's a part of her that is downright spitefully mean.


I also wonder if the other detectives might give him the cold shoulder. Vera told Valens two eps ago (I think) not to be with Chris and Stillman and Vera weren't too nice to Scotty about his disheveled looks. Obvioulsy Vera told Stillman so I assume he already told Jeffries.

Looks like Chris is going to crash with Scotty at his place.


~Naj

[Ryebeach]

Naj said:

I also wonder if the other detectives might give him the cold shoulder. Vera told Valens two eps ago (I think) not to be with Chris and Stillman and Vera weren't too nice to Scotty about his disheveled looks. Obvioulsy Vera told Stillman so I assume he already told Jeffries.

Good point Naj and I think they will not be too friendly to Scotty after they find out. Vera did warn him.

[TVFan]

I can't figure out what exactly has Lilly so riled up. If it's the fact that Scotty lied to her face about the Chris thing, then I can understand her attitude toward him. It appears that Lilly has a hard time leaving the personal stuff out of her work when they overlap. This is surprising b/c Lilly always seems so strong. I like the way they have allowed a new side to show with her character. Character flaws are something we all have, and it's nice to see a character on television demonstrate some as well. Lilly's behavior after she found out about Scotty and her sister definitely came from a dark place. I'm interested to see where this leads - it's certainly allowing for some great acting from Kathryn.

[Naj]

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Well Lilly has some major problems obviously. I did like Scotty's dialog with her saying that he's allowed to do what he wants with his own time. I don't have the wording. I'd have to go back and transcribe it.

So what the heck is Lilly's problem? The world doesn't revolve arournd her!

Scotty talked about her "daggers" all day. Those looks from the interrogating room when she says: "As Far as lies goes, yours isn't the worst." (talking to Leah)

[lk]

I missed some of the episode 15 tonight, when Scotty tells Chris to leave. What were they talking about before regarding Lilly, all I caught was "bottle", I all remember is Scotty's look...seems telling, but I have no idea what he and Chris were talking about. Can anyone help?

lk

[annecsinha]

I could be wrong but it sounded to me that Chris claimed that Lilly was engaged 9 years ago and her fiance was drinking (hitting the bottle) - at that point Scotty got uncomfortable and said he did not want to know any more. But it sounded to me that she was saying Lilly's fiance had attacked her or messed around with her. (and thus Lilly's anger at her)

Now the question is how much of this is true?

Anyone else agree that this was the case?

Thanks, Anne

[Naj]

But it sounded to me that she was saying Lilly's fiance had attacked her or messed around with her.

I don't think it was made clear. Lily's fiance began to drink and Hit? on Chrissie? And she let him? I don't know if he was violent. Maybe that is so. But there has to be something more there for Lilly to be so angry at her. Lilly told Scotty that Chrissy is trouble. So we heard Chris's version last night. We haven't heard Lilly's version yet!

[Disasterfreak]

Good character study, TVFan! Once again, very nicely put. I couldn't agree more with everything you've said so far. And I sure couldn't have expressed it as clear. Thanks!! :clap:

[Naj]

I totally missed the dig Lilly took at Elissya - TV Fan. Yes I think Scotty made it clear that what he does is his business. It's like people are walking on broken glass around Lilly. Why is that? And Scotty isn't going to do that. Interesting.


~Naj

[ruda]

I think with they can be together!
Better, they must be together! ;D

[TVFan]

It might have been my (poor) choice of words Naj. I was referring to the comment she made about Scotty sleeping with her sister and how that wouldn't "bring back your dead girlfriend." I just thought it was a low blow because Elisa's death is still fresh. Plus, she and Scotty never really talked about the whole thing with Elisa's death. He turned to everyone but her. That struck me as odd, so her comment about Elisa's death seemed out of place since she didn't really know of what she spoke.

[Disasterfreak]

I really shouldn't say anything cuz I'll probably have to change my mind afterwards when I actually watch the episode. But, for the time being...
Someone on CC source number 1 made a comment that I found very insightful. Lilly doesn't actually know how much Scotty knows of what happened 9 years ago. After all, she wasn't there when he and Chris were talking about it. So when Scotty said, "can't help what happened 9 years ago", she must've though he knew everything, panicked, and burst out the first thing that came to mind--that dig about Elisa. Which was crummy and low and out of character, true--but when you feel cornered, you're apt to say and do things you'd never do otherwise.

NOTE: The person who originally came up with this idea is Worldsgreatest, who is also part of this board. So, Worldsgreatest--full credit .

[Ryebeach]

Disasterfreak said:

Lilly doesn't actually know how much Scotty knows of what happened 9 years ago. After all, she wasn't there when he and Chris were talking about it. So when Scotty said, "can't help what happened 9 years ago", she must've though he knew everything, panicked, and burst out the first thing that came to mind--that dig about Elisa. Which was crummy and low and out of character, true--but when you feel cornered, you're apt to say and do things you'd never do otherwise.

All very true. Thanks for giving us this other angle to think about. Perhaps Lilly does think Scotty knows the whole story (whatever that is) and thus she was even more upset.

[TVFan]

***Post contains spoilers from "Revenge"***



Did anyone else notice the look on Scotty's face when Lilly related her childhood story to Archie? I couldn't figure out whether it was a look of compassion or admiration or other.

It seemed like he realized just what Lilly has been through when she relived her mother's problem with alcohol. Maybe he felt a bit of understanding of where she was coming from in "Wishing." Lilly has told him very little about her childhood, so he doesn't have a proper basis.

The other thought that crossed my mind was that he was amazed at how she was able to get Archie to open up so easily by telling her experiences with a parent with an addiction. Maybe he admired the way she used her personal story to get to him.

Either way, I thought that this moment in the interrogation was sort of a break through for them. They were working together better this episode (although it was still rocky) anyway, so maybe things will start to get better between them now. I can see Scotty apologizing to Lilly for not fully understanding her side of the disagreement. I would imagine that Lilly would then apologize for her hurtful comment.

What do you guys think?

[V]

I thought the look on Scotty's face showed a mix of compassion and wonder as to what exactly Lilly was doing. I actually felt like he thought that Lilly was going to lose it there for a moment, especially given the stress she's been under.

I haven't seen all the eps from 1st season, but was this the first time Lilly actually cried during an interrogation? I know she's come close, but I was surprised to see a tear rolling down her cheek. Great acting by Kathryn!

[Ryebeach]

TVFan said:

Either way, I thought that this moment in the interrogation was sort of a break through for them. They were working together better this episode (although it was still rocky) anyway, so maybe things will start to get better between them now. I can see Scotty apologizing to Lilly for not fully understanding her side of the disagreement. I would imagine that Lilly would then apologize for her hurtful comment.

What do you guys think?

Honestly, I do not think Lilly will apologize to Scotty. I think she wants to but she is far too stubborn to actually say it. I think that stubborness will eventually make Lilly and Scotty's parternship even more rocky than it already is.

[Naj]

I think there's a part or pattern to Lilly of getting hurt that turns her into an unforgiving individual. It's definitely an unattractive aspect of her overall personality. Until she resolves that part of herself I don't see her being successful in any close relationship.


~Naj

[Disasterfreak]

Naj said:

I think there's a part or pattern to Lilly of getting hurt that turns her into an unforgiving individual. It's definitely an unattractive aspect of her overall personality. Until she resolves that part of herself I don't see her being successful in any close relationship.

That I agree with. Poor Lilly. But it's very realistic... lots of people are like that...