The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 26, 2009 15:12:12 GMT -5
Which brings to mind, how do they tell which cases are worth opening, and which ones are not? The whole deal with the cold case unit is that all leads have gone cold; therefore any new lead they get should be grounds to look into the case.
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Post by Trublu on Oct 26, 2009 15:38:25 GMT -5
Which brings to mind, how do they tell which cases are worth opening, and which ones are not? The whole deal with the cold case unit is that all leads have gone cold; therefore any new lead they get should be grounds to look into the case. I think Along this note, I do believe that (real) cold case units may reopen cases periodically (when they do not already have an open case) simply because technology is making it easier and easier to decipher evidence, especially with DNA advances. Take for example the bottle used to kill Billy. In 1970, they apparently didn't have the resources to match the print design; today, someone could scan it and match it within a couple of days. It's plausible that by simply filtering through old evidence with new technology, they could reopen many of the cases sitting on the shelves without any other prompting. |
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The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 26, 2009 16:03:23 GMT -5
That's a very good point, and something I hadn't actually considered, Trublu.
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Post by Electrophile on Oct 26, 2009 18:30:30 GMT -5
I notice someone voted for "hated it". I'm curious as to their reasoning.
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 26, 2009 19:50:30 GMT -5
I notice someone voted for "hated it". I'm curious as to their reasoning. Me too.. I just hope it's not the troll from the IMB boards... |
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Post by byrdman9802 on Oct 26, 2009 20:32:18 GMT -5
Hi boys and girls!  Hello and how are you all today? I hope that you have had a good one, and that you are having a good start to your weeks. I rated this show as an excellent one! It had a great soundtrack, great storyline, great cast (Vera was priceless many times in this one!) and great scenes with KM - that makes any show better in my mind though.  But I really liked the case - it kept me guessing the whole time. Who might've done it? There were many possibilities? And seeing Will get into the case was neat too - you could tell he had a feeling for Philly's music scene back then - pulling out his vinyls and looking at all those gold records. And Vera was cracking me up many times! The hot sauce, chili fries, and then the music with Will! "You know the Delfonics, right?" "Nope." "Tell me you know 'Love Train'...." "From the beer commercial?" LOL! I was cracking up! And the sidestory with Lilly and Finn was very interesting - I see that going places. Lilly gets to fill Finn in on who his dad used to be, it could be interesting in many respects. But I would rate this show as excellent! Great job, Cold Case! |
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Post by toddsmitts on Oct 26, 2009 21:52:18 GMT -5
One thing that bothered me a bit is that the clue that finally led them to the doer's identity was Billy's father mentioning the psalm on Billy's headstone was the same one Chandra quotes.
Now I know where supposed to assume that what one detective learns, all detectives learn. Still, do they really write down every single thing a witness says in passing? Did Scotty really write that down in notes after talking to her, then share it with the others?
I believe there was a similar situation in "Torn" where Kat figured out who the doer was because a Sophie Tucker record was playing and Emma Stone had mentioned in passing to Lilly and Vera that Sophie Tucker had been Elizabeth Stone's favorite.
I just think the whole thing probably would have been a bit neater if either Lilly or Scotty was in on the interrogation of Billy's father and remembered it themselves.
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 26, 2009 23:55:20 GMT -5
I imagine they don't write everything down but I imagine that quote stuck with them. When they compare notes, they mention that and I'm sure Lily or Scotty said to themselves that they had heard that quote recently. Of course, this is also a tv show so a little liberty doesn't bug me. That's never been a pet peeve of mine on this show.
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lillyrush1977
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Post by lillyrush1977 on Oct 27, 2009 10:14:27 GMT -5
I really really enjoyed this episode. I hated that I had to wait an extra week to see it, but it was worth it in the long run. I was guessing the entire time on who done it, but there was something not right about the girl and she was my pick about 35 minutes into the show. Of course the reaction from my fellow watch party was NO WAY! So I got to say at the end, ha ha I was right and you was wrong!
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Post by madmax on Oct 27, 2009 11:02:40 GMT -5
Still, do they really write down every single thing a witness says in passing? Did Scotty really write that down in notes after talking to her, then share it with the others? In real life it usually depends on how picky the detective is and what department has taught them. Some detectives really do write down everything every witness has said (long reports that ones), some do not. Detectives I had a pleasure to meet said that they try to teach newbies that everything is important at the beginning of the investigation. Now, do all have that attitude? Hell no! Otherwise we would have no cold cases. There was one interesting thing in this episode I didn't see anyone mention (or I'm just blind ). At the end, when Lilly meets Finn at the diner she brings the photo of young Paul on the motorbike. He was in a leather jacket or something similar, looking like a 'dangerous kid on the block' that good girls fall for  Now, for me, that explains why Lil' fell for Ray when she was a teenager |
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Post by toddsmitts on Oct 27, 2009 12:28:27 GMT -5
At the end, when Lilly meets Finn at the diner she brings the photo of young Paul on the motorbike. He was in a leather jacket or something similar, looking like a 'dangerous kid on the block' that good girls fall for Now, for me, that explains why Lil' fell for Ray when she was a teenager Yeah, that makes sense. |
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The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 27, 2009 12:44:39 GMT -5
Ahh, yes, now that I did notice, but didn't think of anything of it at the time. Now that I think about it, I once read that women are more drawn to men who are like their father.
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Post by madmax on Oct 27, 2009 15:00:12 GMT -5
Now that I think about it, I once read that women are more drawn to men who are like their father. If you look at all men that Lilly dated, for now it only applies to Ray. I mean, we didn't get to know Paul to much and his character. Or maybe anyone can see some of that apply to other guys Lil' dated? |
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Post by zoé on Oct 28, 2009 3:21:34 GMT -5
Now, for me, that explains why Lil' fell for Ray when she was a teenager I like this theory! That and Ray is ridiculously hot ;D If you look at all men that Lilly dated, for now it only applies to Ray. I mean, we didn't get to know Paul to much and his character. Or maybe anyone can see some of that apply to other guys Lil' dated? Not really, Lil's pool of boyfriends has been pretty diverse! Actually, they did get a new lead. At first they suspected that Billy was just a drunk, no-good person. It was when William noticed the Jack of Clubs card that he realized that Billy was a VIP member of the Beehive, therefore one of the best musicians in Philly, and ergo NOT a drunk, no good guy. I agree that they found a new info while reading the case. The out of context is what bothered me. In Jurisprudence, there were a new testimony and a strong evidence that the ME was wrong, and Stillman was still reluctant to reopen the case. Here we have a guy who wants to complete his family tree and they pop up the box... 2 other things: - Ryan Farley wrote November 22nd and Soul: they both feature some jazz tunes, a woman murdering a guy (which is pretty rare in CC!) and motive is because they are left behind. - About alcohol: it kills -litteraly!- and destroys careers (the guitarist). The victim's son only knew about his dad that he was a "drunken bum" whereas Finn Cooper doesn't know that his dad was an alcoholic. It's even ironic that he got drunk in order to meet Lilly! |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 28, 2009 13:00:22 GMT -5
You are right about the female killing a male... to my knowledge there has only been ten cases on CC featuring that.
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Post by Naj on Oct 29, 2009 11:16:12 GMT -5
I had the killer pegged from the get go but was disappointed in the the final scene where the crime is committed. The music theme was great! I'm sure many enjoyed a trip down memory lane. Finn looks like Lily's brother. By now, I have fully realized that we just get a slice of Lilly's life. The stories are not designed for any real closure. The thought the episode was a Good.
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Post by lillyandscotty on Oct 31, 2009 20:32:34 GMT -5
Not enough time to read it, so sorry if someone posted it but Help! did not see!
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Post by ninja1088 on Nov 1, 2009 12:03:21 GMT -5
I thought the final scene was the crime was committed was good. IMO, Billy leaving went beyond the fact she loved him and didn't want him to leave. It was as Scotty and Lily pointed out... without Billy... Chandra sadly was nothing due to having the wrong "look". BIlly leaving to pursue his dreams... meant the end of Chandra's.
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Post by nomnivore on Feb 4, 2010 3:17:27 GMT -5
-What I especially liked about this episode was how surprised I was at who the doer turned out to be. Not since season four's "Static" have I been so off in guessing who the doer would be. That was my feeling too. I was really surprised about who the killer was, but unlike some episodes, it did make sense. Loved the Finn / Lilly subplot, which surprised me, because I usually prefer the cases over Lillydrama. I liked them talking in the diner during the end montage. I was sad there was no mention of Kat. Surely one of them could have mentioned her? She works with them for four years, and then there's one scene of her packing up her boxes? |
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Post by Electrophile on Mar 8, 2010 11:31:52 GMT -5
It was nice to watch this again last night - I forgot how much I loved the ending.
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Now, for me, that explains why Lil' fell for Ray when she was a teenager 
