The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Sept 28, 2009 15:52:22 GMT -5
Something just came to mind, but I'm starting to notice that the Lilly and Moe thing as seen in this episode is now reminding me of the myth of Inanna and Shukaletuda. More information can be found in the season 7 spoiler thread here.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 29, 2009 6:49:21 GMT -5
I rewatched it again, the ending really got to me. How the last song had faded as the background music grew louder. It really went with what Lilly was feeling while behind the wheel of the car, all her anger, you can clearly see in her eyes.
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Post by Naj on Sept 29, 2009 9:45:41 GMT -5
Something just came to mind, but I'm starting to notice that the Lilly and Moe thing as seen in this episode is now reminding me of the myth of Inanna and Shukaletuda. More information can be found in the season 7 spoiler thread here. But I don't wish to be spoiled. Can you say anything about this Lilly/Moe? One thing I forgot to mention was the actor match up for the Tucker character past and present. They even got the jaw line and teeth exact! I was totally impressed. I really didn't notice the music for this episode except the opening and the closing montage.
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Post by lillyfan on Sept 29, 2009 10:05:18 GMT -5
Anyways, about the episode, I watched it again and I actually kinda liked the story this time, it wasn't the best but it was ok. When I watched it the other night I wasn't paying too much attention. I do agree about where they found the body, they could have been more creative. I think Lilly was dropping subtle threats throughout the show: When Stillman told her to do her job and she came back with "I'm not sure I can do that" then telling Bell "I'm not the one you should be sorry for". And when they were interrogating Grace for the last time and Lilly told her "She didn't care what other people thought anymore, she was going to take the situation into her own hands" Lilly was referring to herself, I think. Scotty's look and the tone of his voice after that statement says that he caught on to her meaning. Then finally at the end turning her hi beams on and glaring at Moe, I think was a pretty big threat. That gave me chills, Lilly has a dark side. I think it's going to be an interesting season. Do you guys think she'll take Moe out or do you think one of the other detectives will do it, seeing that it's affecting her, because they're all like family and you can tell they all love Lilly, they were all by her side in court and saw her devastation at Moe's release. May be a little far fetched, I think she'll take him out, (if anyone does) because she's been known to take care of herself. Just something I'm thinking about.
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Post by Naj on Sept 29, 2009 10:43:58 GMT -5
I never thought of this happening that one of the other detectives might take him out. Scotty would be the obvious but, really, Stillman I believe would do it based upon the recap from last season. Maybe there was a hint to the clip of Stillman and Doherty? I have to say they've captured my attention this season! Maybe Stillman and Lilly are both together and Lilly takes him out and Stillman takes the fall. He would do that!
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Post by lillyfan on Sept 29, 2009 10:52:53 GMT -5
Yeah that's a good possibility. I just think back to "The Woods" when Stillman and Scotty are talking to George on the phone and Scotty threatens him and Stillman's practically in tears & then goes into the house armed against better judgment; you could tell the love they had for her. I think we might see that same protective nature and not only from those two but from all of them. Like I said they're all a family.
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Post by irishgirl101 on Sept 29, 2009 11:23:23 GMT -5
I think it's going to be an interesting season. Do you guys think she'll take Moe out or do you think one of the other detectives will do it, seeing that it's affecting her, because they're all like family and you can tell they all love Lilly, they were all by her side in court and saw her devastation at Moe's release. May be a little far fetched, oooh thats good! i never thought about it that way! i think its a real possiblity that one of the others, mainly scotty or stillman, could take moe out for her because, like you said, there all one big family! i rewatched and i just otta say the end bit with everyone in the resturant nd lillys empty chair was quite touching! thats why i love cold case!
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Post by lillyfan on Sept 29, 2009 11:57:29 GMT -5
Anyhow I rewatched it again, the ending really got to me. How the last song had faded as the background music grew louder. It really went with what Lilly was feeling while behind the wheel of the car, all her anger, you can clearly see in her eyes. I loved that part, a little creepy but it was so flawless
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Post by lillyrush1977 on Sept 29, 2009 14:37:49 GMT -5
It sounded to me like they were setting up the season finale, when Bell said that Moe's trial wasn't until May. If something don't happen before then that is
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Post by ninja1088 on Sept 29, 2009 23:27:32 GMT -5
I just hope they don't turn Lily into an lawbreaker like they did with Jack Malone on Without A Trace. It will be hard to take her seriously if she's questioning and arresting suspects on hand while breaking the law with the other.
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Post by judii on Sept 30, 2009 12:36:11 GMT -5
They should put Moe into jail I think this will be Lilly´s story in this season.
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Post by niiny on Sept 30, 2009 12:38:12 GMT -5
Hey Judii I hope Lilly will Kick Moe's ass !!! Or more (kill him) xD
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Post by ntacvic on Sept 30, 2009 13:01:59 GMT -5
Hi everybody! I've just registered to this forum, and I'm very glad to discuss about Cold Case with you. Well, I'm not American, I'm from Europe, and I'm a fan of Cold Case (among thousands in Europe).
The season 7 seems to be very interesting. I've just learnt Kitchener was released, which made Lilly angry. I hope she won't do anything stupid...
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Post by leni810 on Sept 30, 2009 14:47:54 GMT -5
I just saw the ep... The case was poor... Nothing but the too used plan "strong victim tries to break away and gets killed by the coward close friend of them almost by accident"... That's a shame because they had a nice place and time for the whole story. Anyway. The rest saves the ep.
Kat and Bell are so cute!! And their kiss too! hehe!! Their story is really nice.
As for Lil and Moe... I am glad, finally, because it's Lil that makes the first move against Moe. It's interesting to see the bad side of the characters and for Lil this was too rare. KM's words had given me the impression that first Moe would move against her (In fact that would be silly for him because he would worsened his situation, but it would give Lil a great excuse...). But he didn't do anything serious or unexpecting... Lil stalking him and anything that she will do are based on anger, revenge and spite. She isn't in actual danger... In the whole episode she was pretty nervous, quick moving and all this. When she jumped the rail in the ship I smiled. Two men but she jumped and even Scotty seemed a litlle akward with this. Maybe, eventually a part of old Lilly is back but with Moe's storyline it will not be a too good thing...
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Post by tommyk on Sept 30, 2009 15:14:51 GMT -5
I agree with most of the posters: the subplots were interesting, but can you build an entire episode out of subplots? The case itself was one of those "been there, done that" affairs. And several other factors annoyed me. The acting had a touch of that arch, over-eager style that I loathe in these "romantic" period pieces. (The scene at the piano was excruciating.) The constant remarks like "times are changing" were heavy-handed; contrary to what Taylor Elmore must believe, most of us are not aware of changing social trends while we're living them. And while friends do turn on each other -- "Pin Up Girl" was a smashingly well-motivated example last season -- the denouement here was neither convincing or compelling. Oh well, last season's opener was a disappointment, too...
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The Reverend Bizarre
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Sept 30, 2009 15:46:19 GMT -5
By the way, something I noticed. When Moe got into his car at the end of the episode, he was clearly drunk. Anyone else besides me think that Lilly's going to try to get Moe busted for drunk driving; but that this will backfire on her? (Because then they'd find out she's stalking him.)
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 30, 2009 16:06:11 GMT -5
By the way, something I noticed. When Moe got into his car at the end of the episode, he was clearly drunk. Anyone else besides me think that Lilly's going to try to get Moe busted for drunk driving; but that this will backfire on her? (Because then they'd find out she's stalking him.) I was also thinking that as well, but does anyone think that Moe actually saw her behind the wheel, even though the lights were blinding him?
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The Reverend Bizarre
Lilly Rush
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"The way your prophet breaks his bread does not speak the future." - Mephirostus
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Sept 30, 2009 16:42:46 GMT -5
I don't think he did see her. When someone is drunk there vision will be blurred, and add that with the blinding lights. Chances are even if Lilly wasn't trying to blind him with her headlights, he probably wouldn't have been able to see her properly.
Now, what I'd like to know is, how in the world did Lilly find out which bar Moe was going to be at?
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Post by Trublu on Sept 30, 2009 16:48:25 GMT -5
By the way, something I noticed. When Moe got into his car at the end of the episode, he was clearly drunk. Anyone else besides me think that Lilly's going to try to get Moe busted for drunk driving; but that this will backfire on her? (Because then they'd find out she's stalking him.) I thought that what we were going to see after the headlights was exactly this; Lilly exiting her car and arresting Moe. Of course, technically he hadn't done anything illegal yet, so I suppose it still could be something we see at the beginning of the next episode. But the outcome would be exactly as you mentioned, TRB. She would probably be reprimanded for following Moe, he might even threaten a police harassment charge against her. Will this stop her? Probably not, if she's going to be headed down a more chilling road this season. But, I think the writers will need to know when enough is enough, and not pull a Jack Malone or Elle Greenaway.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Sept 30, 2009 20:47:11 GMT -5
Wait a minutes wasn't what happened to Lilly taken place on the 10th not the 6th? if I remembered corrently Lilly was pushed off into the river on May 10th, but the 6th?
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