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Post by Trublu on Oct 3, 2009 19:13:22 GMT -5
THE TEAM INVESTIGATES THE 1995 MURDER OF A RUNAWAY TEEN WHO WAS KNOWN ON THE STREETS FOR HIS ASTOUNDING SKATEBOARDING SKILLS, ON "COLD CASE," SUNDAY, OCT. 4
Kevin Chapman ("Brotherhood" and "Rescue Me") Plays a Police Officer Who Recalls the Victim
"Hoodrats" - The team investigates the 1995 murder of a 17-year-old boy who left his dysfunctional home for the streets, where he started to make his mark as a skateboarding prodigy, on COLD CASE, Sunday, Oct. 4 (10:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
Kevin Chapman ("Brotherhood" and "Rescue Me") plays a police officer who recalls the victim - and the citation he gave him for skateboarding on city property.
SERIES REGULARS:
Lilly Rush................................. Kathryn Morris
Scotty Valens................................. Danny Pino
Lt. John Stillman................................ John Finn
Nick Vera............................ Jeremy Ratchford
Will Jeffries................................... Thom Barry
Kat Miller................................... Tracie Thoms
GUEST CAST:
Nash Simpson (1995)................ Nick Thurston
Rosa Valens (2009)...................... Terri Hoyos
Ramiro Valens (2009) ....... Ismael "East" Carlo
Cal Acevedo (1995)................... Nate Sanchez
Cal Acevedo (2009)............. Lombardo Boyar
Grady Giles (1995)....................... Drew James
Grady Giles (2009)...................... Warren Kole
Chelsey Simpson
(1995) ............................. Tamara Clatterbuck
Chelsey Simpson (2009)....... Jeannetta Arnette
Mick Simpson (1995).............. Matthew Shane
Mick Simpson (2009)................ Travis Wester
Vonda Martin (1995).................. Gillian Amalia
Vonda Martin (2009).................. Dawn Olivieri
Steve Hess (1995, 2009)......... Chris Browning
Joe Mueller (1995, 2009)....... Kevin Chapman
Rafe Stockton (1995)........... Kevin Scott Allen
WRITTEN BY: Series Supervising Producer Elwood Reid
DIRECTED BY: Chris Fisher
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 4, 2009 22:03:43 GMT -5
A much better episode indeed, but there was a tiny mistake Lilly hadn't been a cop for 11 yrs, we learned during the s6 finally she became a cop in 1994; so that was an error.
Loved Lilly getting that text message, and the whole thing with the fans reminded me of S3's " Death penalty; Final Appeal".
Did anyone notice that the younger version of mick , the actor playing the older actor resemebled each other?
Plus Vera skating was pretty funny, but there is something seriously going on with Scotty's mother. Her all alone crying in the car, was something. But I noticed a certain lyric when the camera focused on Scotty walking through the park, along the lines of " My son", or something similiar to this.
Is this some foreshadowing or what might come, or not? Or am i reading into this too much here?
The mother Chelsea, reminding me of Ellen Rush; but it was a nice touch with Lilly; talking to her about her mother.
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Post by Kassandra on Oct 4, 2009 22:08:17 GMT -5
Totally better than the season premier! LII2 i believe she said 10 years not 11 but i may be wrong ill watch it again later  I think we all know who that txt came from... DUN DUN DUN And the vera on a skateboard just made my day the look on Kats face was priceless! |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 4, 2009 22:38:55 GMT -5
Totally better than the season premier! LII2 i believe she said 10 years not 11 but i may be wrong ill watch it again later It actually doesn't matter, I could have been wrong myself; but I just was pointing out an Error. Lilly's career as a cop is much longer than that, since 1994; that wouldn't equal 11 years. It would be 1998; just a year before she became a homicide detective; but she had been a cop since graduating from the academy in 1994 ( 6X23- Into the Blue) I like how they are showing signs of the times, ( Budget cuts are clearly shown). I didn't like hearing that Doherty became the commissioner of Cops, that doesn't sound too good either. Stillman's not that pleased either.. |
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Post by boxman on Oct 4, 2009 22:57:29 GMT -5
Nice episode. It's really too bad they couldn't film this one in Philly. Love Park is pretty famous and known worldwide among skateboarders. Here's a little story: The company I work for is headquartered in Wisconsin. We were having problems with our office's network in South Jersey, so they sent out an IT guy to install and check on a few things. After work, I took the guy into Philly and showed him the sights. You know, the Art Museum and Rocky statue, Independence Mall, and so forth. We ended up drinking beer at Monk's Cafe. I come to find out that computers really aren't his interest, it was just something solid for him to have an income with now that he's married. His first real "love" is skateboarding, and he had dreams of being a pro skateboarder all his life! So it was already dark and late, but I said, "Hey! Why don't we go to Love Park?" It had been years since he skateboarded, and it hit him as a kind of shock that he forgot the park was in Philly! So when we get out there, the place is a hangout at night for a whole lot of homeless people. It's relatively safe, though, because there's cops in the general area. My IT guy's eyes just lights up--he got sooooo excited. LOL. He recognized every wall, every ramp, every bench, probably every step on each stairway and so forth... He was saying stuff like, "and this is where so-and-so did this trick in this video"... Ha ha ha... The stop at the park really made his day.  |
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Post by Kassandra on Oct 4, 2009 22:57:36 GMT -5
Hmmm oh well. We all know the right number.
I agree about Doherty. I never liked him!
I like how they brought back some of Lily's feelings towards her mom in this episode.
I was kind of dissapointed about how they handled the Scotty's family introduction. I wanted some more involvment from them.
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 4, 2009 23:14:01 GMT -5
The 10 years thing may refer to the amount of time that Lil's been a detective. Remember she says "It's detective Rush. Been on the job for 10 years now."
As for this episode; MUCH BETTER THAN THE SEASON PREMIERE! I liked the camera work they used during the flashback scenes, as it was quite reminiscent of skate boarding footage. I mean, when I was taking video production in college I watched quite a few videos of skating footage. You can tell they use whatever camera they can afford, and I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing for this episode.
Now for some small things I noticed. When Lil and Scotty are questioning Nash's mom again; at the end of it, she goes "I would do anything for my son" to which Lilly scoffs, and gives this "Yeah right." look.
Who was the blocked number? Was it Lilly's father? or someone else.
At the end when Lilly brought the skateboard to Nash's brother, I thought for a moment that she was going to start skateboarding. Had that happened this episode would have lost all credibility.
My one nitpick. The spoilers mentioned that they'd be using edgier music than they've done before. I'm not sure what they count as edgier music, but the two episodes they used with Pearl Jam songs were edgier than this.
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 4, 2009 23:27:24 GMT -5
Very good episode. You can see throughout Nash's little brother is first and foremost on his mind.
As for Doherty, he will be a presence throughout the season but I have a feeling he'll end up a victim of a sceme he tries to pull on the CC squad.
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Post by boxman on Oct 4, 2009 23:47:08 GMT -5
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 5, 2009 0:18:37 GMT -5
Aah, you mean something akin to a huge proverbial middle finger?
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 5, 2009 6:35:29 GMT -5
I will say in WB's defense, the alternative to show budget cuts was to cancel the show. As much as we gripe about Philly locations no longer being shot and some actors getting reduced screentime in some of the episodes,I'd rather take that... then no Cold Case at all.
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Post by Naj on Oct 5, 2009 7:54:01 GMT -5
I will say in WB's defense, the alternative to show budget cuts was to cancel the show. As much as we gripe about Philly locations no longer being shot and some actors getting reduced screentime in some of the episodes,I'd rather take that... then no Cold Case at all. That's a great point and one to remember that we still have the series going. It doesn't bother me so much. They have to do what they have to do to keep the show. As far as the episode I wasn't able to get into it. Maybe because skateboarding isn't of interest to me? And again, the final scene of the victim's death. He died from getting punched? I guess I missed something obviously. The guy was an athlete and dies from a hit? With Lilly, I'm aready guessing she's getting some kind of a nuisance call and has it blocked. Just a guess. The angle of Scotty and his parents is interesting but why do they always use Scotty to mimic Lilly's personal affairs? Do they feel if Lilly is dealing with her parents then so should Scotty? Didn't they do that with love interests, too? But, anyway, that aside, I am intrigued with what is going on with his mother. Maybe we'll get to see a gentler side of Scotty without the anger for a change.  I, too, thought Lilly was going to get on the skateboard when she handed to the guy in the closing montage. Wouldn't that have been funny? I guess I thought that by the way the scene played out. And, Vera on a skateboard. (nice camera trickery). Didn't you love Kat's expression. Now, they should have put Kat on the skateboard but it wouldn't have been funny. I think it's believable that Kat could skateboard as she appears to have some athletic talent. Overall, I gave the episode a Good. It wasn't anything spectacular. |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 5, 2009 8:10:54 GMT -5
With blows to the head or punches, if you get hit in the right spot, death can come within seconds or minutes, athlete or not
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Post by The Reverend Bizarre on Oct 5, 2009 9:09:24 GMT -5
Also, Nash was whacked upside the head with a skateboard. He wasn't just punched.
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 5, 2009 10:18:20 GMT -5
I also noticed that there were a lot of things in common between Ellen Rush and Mick and Nash's mother, that Lilly had also picked up. I noticed that she appeared to be saddeened when speaking about her
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 5, 2009 11:48:58 GMT -5
Young or old, I've learned that people who have been through what Lily and Mick & Nash can just "tell" in interactions like the one at the start of the episode if they've been through similar experiences with alcoholic or drug addicted parents.
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Post by judii on Oct 5, 2009 12:35:58 GMT -5
This case was much better than the last one. ;D Vera was very funny on the Skateboard xD But why was Scotty´s mom crying?  |
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Post by longislanditalian2 on Oct 5, 2009 12:47:28 GMT -5
But why was Scotty´s mom crying? Honestly, no one knows exactly why yet, it wasn't clear on why. |
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Post by ninja1088 on Oct 5, 2009 14:07:16 GMT -5
Speaking of mothers.. Nash and Mick's needed to be slapped. She not only abandons her two sons but has the gall to ask the son for money after she chose that $#@ bf of hers over him. I would have told her to go straight to hell.
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Post by Electrophile on Oct 5, 2009 14:59:36 GMT -5
I voted this episode as "excellent". Much better than the season premiere, that much I know. I felt from the beginning that Lilly and Mick would have a bond of sorts, seeing as how they both had dysfunctional mothers and she felt that sting. I thought the victim in this case was a little more relatable or at least, easier to feel sympathy for. He came from a bad home, but there was something he was good at, something he felt would take him from that bad situation and into something better. I think all of us have been there before - there's something we're really good at and we want to make a living doing it.
Pettiness that takes lives is always the most lamentable.
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